goa127 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:55 am
It infuriates me that people cannot see that damaging the club is not the same as damaging G&S. Just as they don't put their hands in their own pockets, it doesn't cause them personal loss to not buy a shirt from the shop. Although Sulli may think he IS the club, he isn't. It's still West Ham United. (although some think not)
There's fragments of the old West Ham still there - much, but not all of the fanbase. One of our own captaining the side. You can't get any more West Ham than a legend's son playing his first game for West Ham and becoming an instant hero. But I'm one of those who no longer see enough of West Ham United in West Ham London.
I don't care about results - that doesn't mean I want 'us' to lose just that I don't care if we do. What's the point? We're never going to win the league - we never were for that matter except for when, in now what feels like a galaxy far, far away, for one lovely season it just looked like we just might. But. We don't even try to win cups anymore - in fact we actively try not to win them. The non league team I used to support and still look out for, and who are now in league ZZZ showed considerably more heart and application when losing recently to Oxford than we did against the same opposition a few weeks earlier. As much as anything can be obscene in a footballing context then that's obscene. It wouldn't be if it was a one off but it isn't - it's what we now do and do year in year out. Because the cups don't matter and I never in a million years thought anyone would be able to say that about West Ham. ****, we even nearly won a cup under Terry Brown and until the current parasites came along I never thought we'd get a worse owner than that ****.
So who is behind the objectives we set? It was never Zola, Grant, Slav, Moyes (although his throwing of the Arsenal cup game was something else). It was never Allardyce for all the stick he took for "hanging the kids out to dry". It's not Pellers. It's the bosses - they set the goals - they tell the manager what they want and don't want. If they told a manager that they wanted us to go full tilt at the cups then one of them would have had to do so by now. That it hasn't happened should tell you everything you need to know why many of us barely recognise, if we recognise it all our own football club.
So without wishing relegation on us I really don't care if 'we' do go down. I don't care what effect it has on the club as it exists now because I don't see it as being even remotely close to the club it was. And I don't want that situation to continue. People say relegation would mean they're less likely to leave due to wanting to maximise profits. Well of course that's what they want but it kind of assumes we'll bounce back up into the money league. I think that's a huge assumption to make. The Championship is far more competitive than the PL. There are famous old clubs in that league with money who haven't managed to get out of it or keep out of it. We could very easily become just another one of them. That's just as likely in my view and within a couple of years there'd be no more (unless GSB gave tickets away) than 25,000 rattling around in that place. And people think it's depressing now? Just wait. We'd see then if they hang on for the money league return or if they had to cut their losses and sell cheaper just to get rid of the chain around their neck and because it wasn't such a valuable asset. That would also open up the possibility of opening us up to more potential buyers rather than less at the price they'd try to get out of people now.
If GSB stay for a few years more there will be nothing of my club left regardless of what league it is in. If they go sooner rather than later then at least something of what I fell in love with will still be there and that something can still be built on by owners with a bit more sympathy and respect for what we always were and always should be. So relegation for West Ham London? Not a problem for me no matter how much that might grind the gears of those such as yourself, whose perspective I understand by the way, but just don't agree with.