David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC

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Re: David Moyes

Post by il_martello_di_genovesi » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:20 pm

Brown Sauce wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:13 pm
By different type you mean ones that win games?
Depends how they win them though. If the team is awful, on the beach, missing a player or out of form, they don't really count...

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Re: David Moyes

Post by BondsoBob » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:22 pm

I am still finding it hard to believe that this is actually happening.
Only at West Ham eh?

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Re: David Moyes

Post by 61dicksey » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:23 pm

Why hasn’t he had a job since he left us?
Like the Fools and horse sketch “ LDH “ luxury Detached House no Low Demand Housing
He is desperation measure

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Re: David Moyes

Post by steps » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:24 pm

arlhe wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:57 pm
I'll be giving any new manager my wholehearted support for the rest of the season at least. Absolutely no point in getting on his case early doors.

I reserve the right to change that opinion if we appoint Pullis...
If results don’t go his way though it’s going to get ugly. The toxicity in that stadium is already palpable, but it will truly go off the scale if he doesn’t get the results and get them fast.

The board really know how to p*** off the fans. It’s like they’re saying shut up you silly children and take your nasty medicine like good little boys and girls.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by If only.... » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:25 pm

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Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:13 pm
Truth be told there is not a huge points difference between tenth and eighteenth, but we were looking like a team in freefall and unlikely to move up. A top ten finish is still achievable with very little in the way pf improvement, just getting the team organised defensively, which you would think Moyes is capable of. However I am never a fan of going back as it never seems to end well and his previous spell was adequate rather than impressive both in results and style of play.
We are not looking like a team in freefall. We ARE a team in freefall. Yesterday was the end for me. Leicester so confident they put out their reserves yet we still cannot raise a head of steam despite being at home. Pellers had to go and we need someone who can steady the ship PDQ with a tough Jan/Feb ahead after Bournemouth.

No ideal manager who is likely to want to be associated with us as we are. If Moyes hits his 29% win rate and the same draws as before we stay up. That is critical.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by steps » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:29 pm

I’m getting cold sweats every time I get a Sky Sports notification on my phone. :(

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Re: David Moyes

Post by BondsoBob » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:33 pm

steps wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:29 pm
I’m getting cold sweats every time I get a Sky Sports notification on my phone. :(
I thought it was already a done deal? :(

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Re: David Moyes

Post by Brown Sauce » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:33 pm

il_martello_di_genovesi wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:20 pm
Depends how they win them though. If the team is awful, on the beach, missing a player or out of form, they don't really count...
I prefer mine to average better than 29% win ratio or 1.19 points per game.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by denzel » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:36 pm

This is the David Moyes thread, we should be discussing Pellegrini.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by Beavis Danzig » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:41 pm

BondsoBob wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:33 pm
I thought it was already a done deal? :(
if you're making an extremely unpopular decision, its better to soft release the information first before making it official to dissipate the impact.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by lib2007 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:42 pm

Porn level standards without all the ****ing

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Re: David Moyes

Post by keithwright1977 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:47 pm

Sullivan sees Moyes as the football manager equivalent of Viagra, he kept us up last time and he’s hoping the effects haven’t worn off

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Re: David Moyes

Post by lib2007 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:50 pm

Hope we don’t get a heart attack instead

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Re: David Moyes

Post by S-H » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:56 pm

keithwright1977 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:47 pm
Sullivan sees Moyes as the football manager equivalent of Viagra, he kept us up last time and he’s hoping the effects haven’t worn off
I love you Keith.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by Porkeyes » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:57 pm

These pricks won’t pay for the standard of player required for the likes of Pellegrini/ Zola / Billic. So after the initial burst of joy at their appointments it all comes crashing down as we don’t have the personnel to be competitive.
Moyes is where we are now. The liars need him to protect their gravy train. The question is do you renew if we stay up?

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Re: David Moyes

Post by Universidad-de-Chile » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:01 pm

What if we get relegated even with Moyes or Pulis on charge???

Its a fair question, someone has to ask..

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Re: David Moyes

Post by Georgee Paris » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:05 pm

Those of us that have said we don’t want Moyes get to act all ‘told you so’ :eh: I guess if we get relegated it’s a lose lose situation.

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Re: David Moyes

Post by Georgee Paris » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:06 pm

I guess the only benefit of getting relegated is the chance perhaps the current owners will jump ship. I can’t see it though.
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Re: David Moyes

Post by bubbles1966 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:08 pm

SammyLeeWasOffside wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:43 pm
If he got us running, defending, attacking, winning etc all on a shoestring why is he still unemployed almost 2 years on. Half the league has changed manager since then, have they all missed something that only our chairman has spotted?

I didn't mind him last time and he probably earned a proper crack at the job. Going back feels like a recipe for disaster though. Would be ok with Pearce back as number 2 whoever comes in.
Doc asked this the other day, Sam.

There are 6 clubs in the league who he has either managed or they genuinely wouldn't consider him because of their size - the usual top 6. That means 14 jobs.

Call us club 7. That only leaves 13.

Three have just been promoted so are understandably sticking to their managers. That leaves 10.

Palace, Bournemouth and Burnley all have long established managers. So, 7.

Watford, Southampton and Wolves have all tended to fix on the foreign based ownership's connections. None are particularly likely destinations for most British managers. So, we're down to 4.

Leicester have Rodgers. He's better than Moyes; but just about everything about the way Leicester are run is better than here, tbf. That leaves 3.

Everton? If they don't want to go back, that's 2.Remember, they had the Allardyce experience at the same time we had Moyes and were fewmin'.

That leaves two realistic alternatives that have been available and pretty open to British managers of the same/similar pedigree to Moyes - Newcastle and Brighton. They took Steve Bruce (the Newcastle support considered him a downgrade on Benitez) and Graham Potter. Potter is an interesting one - as he has a different philosophy to Hughton , but I don't think I've ever seen anyone here put him up as a name for us.

The number of genuinely promising vacancies in the PL for a British manager is relatively few.

Moyes will take the job if offered, because the reality for managers from his generation (Allardyce, McLaren, Hughes, Pardew, Curbishley, Pulis, Warnock, Phil Brown etc) is that they need to take the chance now because Steven Gerrard, Scott Parker, John Terry etc are going to be getting these jobs, sooner rather than later.
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Re: David Moyes

Post by jastons » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:10 pm

I think if we are relegated then there is less chance of G&S selling up because the value of the club will decrease.

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