Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by lincolnhammer1963 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:28 pm

Just booked a ticket for next saturday fa cup game.
It's the 1st game I've been to this season.
Not a ST holder but usually get to between 6 and 10 games a season
I've been doing this for over 25 years
300 mile round trip
Every game last season felt like I was fulfilling my duty rather than looking forward to good day out.
I know the passion inside me is dying
It's the whole stadium experience it's so dull and lifeless
Our songs are sung with no energy or passion in our voices

The main thing that really gets to me is when I watch us on the tv.
Even that's a terrible experience
I find myself cringing when I see some of the camera angles .
The distance from pitch to stand is huge
No wonder other fans ridicule us with that song.
You're not west ham anymore.
We are not West Ham anymore
And we are definitely not UNITED

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by Gsbgsb » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:31 pm

Hard question actually - am I happy at the new ground? In part yes in part no but that would be the same for UP.

The ground has its issues (mainly for me the distance from the action) but then so did UP.

I used to sit in the East Stand upper a row or so from the back, cramped uncomfortable could take 5 or more minutes to even exit the seating area at half time or full time, extreme queues for the loo, impossible to get food or drink (especially at half time).

All these are far better now.

What I do not understand is the moaning about “tourists” - perhaps because those in the seats around and behind me in the East stand varied pretty much game to game over the 30 years I had a season there. Sometimes they were West Ham, sometimes the opposition and frequently foreign there to see a game while in London - I really could not care about that.

As for the walk after the game, I gave up on UP station very quickly and it was either East Ham or Plaistow (on rare occasions I got a seat in the West for a friendly or work tickets - often entertaining fans of other clubs). To me the journey from the ground is better than the hike to East Ham used to be.

Yes I do miss the historic programme stands that used to be on Green Street pre-match and trying to get some of those types of stall back in an area perhaps near the shop might be an idea however the rest of the Green St. “experience” is something I can live without.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by il_martello_di_genovesi » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:38 pm

I hate the travelling to and from Stratford and the getting in and out more so than the stadium (my seat has a decent view and it certainly has more space), but the overall experience doesn't come close. I'm starting to find going to games an effort/chore at that stadium, especially as I have to juggle my ST with work...
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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by stained » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:40 pm

still look forward to games, band 5 ST prices and sitting with sons and mates , although have noticed getting to pub earlier match days
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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by RayleighIrons » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:51 pm

I don't mind it, but then I don't keep wearing my old Boleyn tinted glasses.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by Beavis Danzig » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:47 pm

i made a long boring post about this years ago and nothing has changed. more have come on board with the opinion that even the things they didn't like about the boleyn at the time helped make it what it is. you might not have liked some bloke's bellyfat spilling over into your seat, but packing people in like was one of the things that could spread atmosphere like wildfire.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by goa127 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:50 pm

Big George wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:13 pm
When we played Spurs at Wembley, the difference between a stadium built for summer sport and one built for winter sport really stood out. Not having the wind whistling round you ears was a def plus compared to biting cold at our place.
The concourse can be freezing on a cold day, but find in my seat much better than at UP. Sitting watching football is colder than standimg on a packed terrace though

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by LOS » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:17 pm

RayleighIrons wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:51 pm
I don't keep wearing my old Boleyn tinted glasses.
I try not to wear my Boleyn tinted glasses and appreciate there's no going back. We are where we are etc. What I do wear though is my 'other 91 league clubs with a football stadium' glasses. (Except Coventry....... but the end game aint played out yet)

I honetly think we have the worst ground in the country, based mostly on the fact its not a football ground.

I could live with ALL the other goings on at the club, but that stadium move should've been a game changer. It wasn't. We were taken for fools by 2 porno blokes and their fraud bint. Will never ever forgive them, and hope karma gives 'em a right good hiding.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by ChzMff » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:50 pm

I would say no but my reasoning probably extends to football as a whole.

I am not happy with VAR. I am not happy with the lack of respect and thought to match going fans with constantly changing kick off times. I’m not happy with the chairman. I’m not happy with the continued sanitisation of the game both on and off the pitch. I’m not happy with how much footballers earn in comparison to their ability. I’m not happy with how fickle fans and general media saturation of the game.

So while I don’t particularly like the Olympic stadium, all of the above things contribute to making my experience far worse and for that reason, after 20 years as a season ticket holder, this will be my last.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by Junco Partner » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:25 am

Flatten the dump and start again 👍

It’s not that I wasn’t open minded about the move, I was and remember child-like excitement walking down from Westfield on that hot NK DOMZALE night...this could be something.

Well turns out it wasnt. The whole matchday experience is so poor I struggle to muster sufficient enthusiasm to go and this season is my lowest number of visits in years.

The lack of atmosphere is the killer for me, the lack of ‘an end’ with singing and chanting, the feeling of being a barely tolerated guest at an ‘event’ and not a supporter at my club and then having the awful spectre of the stop/go death march to look forward too after the match. Nah, not for me.

Searching for positives, the toilets are useable, I do get home quicker once I actually reach the station and I do enjoy the food and drink options over Hackney Wick beforehand but it’s nothing, not even in the same league, as a walk down Green Street with a dodgy burger.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by SEAHammer » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:46 am

I don't get to games West Ham or otherwise all that often living 1000's of miles away however I do visit several grounds a year around Europe, and even the US this year, when the opportunity arises.

Whilst there is no question that the LS is unfit for purpose the 'experience' that many of us can recall, albeit with very claret and blue glasses, doesn't exist in many grounds anymore. The Emirates is a morgue, I was at the Bernabeau for the Osasuna game 25,000 empty seats to start and probably 50,000 by the end - RM won 2-0 but hardly a chant all game. Also been at Spurs new ground and whilst the facilities are mind-blowing the atmosphere was nothing to get excited about.

Football fans paying 80 quid a game are just a different breed, what with that and the fact you can no longer sing 90% of the somewhat offensive/racist/homophobic chants from the 80's, that you can't stand, that and half the crowd being glued to some electronic device or another ... the atmosphere was never going to be the same.

Reality is that many, many times UP was like a morgue as well, but we could always get the place rocking for the big games, now even that seems beyond us but we're not alone ... the changes in socially acceptable behaviour have changed football crowds in ways that you simply can't reverse. The ****hole that is the LS just makes our problems ten times worse, the reality remains that the football crowds that we grew up with, noisy, aggressive, macho, well in the EPL they are gone and let's face it they're never coming back.

If you can accept that or indeed never knew those days the LS is probably OK ... but for me even if I could go it's just to depressing.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by MilkyBarKid16 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:41 am

No. It's an awful place to watch football and the overall experience is terrible.

Although I look forward to watching us play, I don't like going to the stadium. From the queues at security to the distance between the stands and the pitch to the crowd control on the way to Stratford station, it's all rather depressing.

When we were at Upton Park, I looked forward to just going there. The game could have been called off and I'd be happy to be at the ground!

It's hard to kick an addiction though...

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by hammerman11 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:40 am

going to the LS is a chore and not something to look forward to. its a sterile neutral zone and not home. the atmosphere is awful for most games and the facilities apart from the toilets are poor. the food is awful and overpriced, beer is over priced served by zombies. the concourse is so uninviting and cold !
the distamce from pitch to stands is an embarrassment, no wonder sully has a TV screen at his seat !

trouble is we are not moving so the question is what can be done to improve it ?
firstly very little will happen whilst gold and Sullivan are there. they wont spend money on players let alone ground improvements.

IF we get a takeover the new owners need to demolish one of the main stands the east or west and rebuild it nearer the pitch. move the pitch closer to the other stand and then square off the sides behind the goals. the roof will need sorting and all in all it will be very expensive. perhaps a better idea is to demolish and start again. we could ground share with leyton orient or rent out Wembley.
all this will be at least 10 years away and I wont be going to football anymore. in fact I think this may be my last season until gsb leave.

going to the LS is soul destroying and that's before you watch us play !

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by Graza » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:30 am

Positives
Real ale in the ground
More toilets, and ones that look like they could have been cleaned at least twice a season
Mobility access for older/disabled fans is pretty good - my dad needed to use this for a period and the people involved and service were much better than expected.
...

Negatives
Massive walk around a shopping center on closed roads, desolate, depressing and in no way feels like you are going to the football, no atmosphere or passion. Also not great for the older supporter or those who have some mobility impairment but don't want to use the mobility services.
Distance from the pitch, ridiculous especially when you compare it to the lies about not moving unless the seats were as close or the lies that were the stadium mock ups. The fact that you could build the emerites inside the OS around the pitch and half the seats would be outside tells you everything you need to know.
Prices, yes if you want to use a Sherpa and oxygen tanks you can get a very cheap ticket, but if you want to see a touchline without binoculars the prices are similar to what you were paying before despite being 30 feet further back. Price of food/beer is stupid given the quality (except for the rib man who is well worth whatever he wants to charge :thup: ). Not to mention spitting in the faces of disabled fans over their rises and the rises of ST for children in some areas of the stadium.
Atmosphere, distance from the pitch, roof and worst migration in history have killed the atmosphere and killed any chance of 12th man intervention or intimidating an opposition.
Covered seats - promised every seat would be covered by the roof, while I'm sure there is some sort of technical truth to it as soon as it rains the front 12-20 rows get wet (this sums up most of the promises from the board, bare minimum to technically sort of do it but actually it's all bollox done as cheaply as possible).
Roof - I asked one question when migrating, where will the sun be during a 3 o clock kick off in relation to the seats I'm being offered, they ****ing lied.to my face. Additionally during our first ever game there against Juve the sun coming through the roof was magnified by it and I saw an older supporter pass out because of it, while I think they've done something about this it is still a **** roof that does all the wrong things.
Football - barring the second half of last season we've been fed poor fare at the toilet bowl. Largely due to minimum investment in playing staff with the two best players we've had there choosing to force moves away rather than continue.
Transport - while there are more lines into Stratford than just the one as per Upton Park, after the soul crushing stop go through the same desolate wasteland of empty roads you trudged up before squinting at **** football half a mile away, the station is vastly overcrowded. Due in no small part to the shopping center but also poor design, stupid access routes and the fact that it's a popular and well served hub for people going into London so already crowded without 30k football fans and 15k daytrippers. The wait and then charge for trains is no better for most than Upton Park whilst admittedly better connected in sheer number of services.
Death of the boxing day game - we will never have another boxing day home game. Which is ****ing ludicrous.
Lies lies and more lies - seats as close as UP, covered seats, world class team in a world class stadium, next level, more funds, more competitive, fit for purpose and on and on and ****ing on.

I could have just said no I suppose...

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by 10 Iron » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:38 am

NO

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by e10hammer » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:59 am

This is my last season as a season ticket holder, I hate the place with a passion, it isn't and never will be a stadium for football, 50 yrs I had at Upton Park, with plenty of ups and downs, but great memories spread over a lifetime with family and friends, I never thought the day would come when I just can't be bothered, I will still meet up with friends for the occasional game and a few beers, other than that I'm done. I Wish all those protesting the best of luck, but for me the protests are too late, our great club changed when when we moved into the souless bowl.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by Hampshire Hammer » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:18 pm

Do I hate the place? No, I just find it soulless and all a bit meh. If we had moved into a modern identikit stadium, just like most recent ones, that would have been bad enough but the bowl is too large. Too many seats are just too far from the action and the crowd noise seems to escape rather than be contained and build an atmosphere. Often in the BML we can't really hear fans from other parts of the ground, but I'm told later that they were singing.

As others have said, when sunny the surrounding park is a pleasant stroll. Once at Stratford station our trip is quicker as we no longer have to change, for others it may well be slower. The walk was easier before they decided to put in stop/go boards before the turn for Carpenters Road. On the whole the location is ok, different to Upton Park and it was never going to be the same.

All in all, for me, the problem is the owners over-promised and didn't try to deliver - in fact many things they came out with they knew couldn't be delivered. The only plus side is that many more West Ham fans can get to see games live and some of them pay a lot less than at the Boleyn.

I keep going as I want to see West Ham and would go wherever they are playing but I find myself not putting the effort in at times; whereas only a few years ago a mid-week game would have seen me taking time off work or arranging meetings to get there, this season I've found myself not bothering.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by ornchurch ammer » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:00 pm

Great post by Graza that I completely agree with but why are these points never raised by anyone who calls in to the radio phone ins?

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by iLoveLasagne » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:22 pm

ornchurch ammer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:00 pm
Great post by Graza that I completely agree with but why are these points never raised by anyone who calls in to the radio phone ins?
Cynic in me thinks they probably screen callers or have them carefully selected or even pre-arranged. The average listener to the likes of Talksport aren't the most eloquent and just get outshouted by the presenters anyway.

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Re: Are YOU happy at the Olympic/London Stadium?

Post by Pob! » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:46 pm

Gave up my season ticket of 34 years after the first season and sadly I haven't and nor do I want to go back.. Yes times and people have changed and football isn't what it once was, but it's the whole your just another body and not a supporter vibe I get at this place that was the final nail in the coffin for me. The stewards have more attitude than a 15 year old kid trying to impress a member of the opposite sex. The food is awful, the walk to the ground a chore all for an abject performance on the pitch by a bunch of let's be honest, mediocre footballers.

Not worth the hassle or the money...

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