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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:55 pm

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And then back the other way. Great stuff
TV confusing me now 😃

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:20 pm

Great effort Bottas, clear that your engine was about to go pop and you went past the pits and caused a safety car.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:47 pm

Verstappen has slapped Hamilton comfortably a couple of times in this race.

Hamilton needs to hope that Mercedes find him some more performance in the Winter. He'll not beat Verstappen in even vaguely equal cars.

And knocking Albon off , incredibly poor form .

Edit : he did at least apologise immediately though.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Bend it like Repka » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:31 pm

White Goodman wrote:
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Verstappen has slapped Hamilton comfortably a couple of times in this race.

Hamilton needs to hope that Mercedes find him some more performance in the Winter. He'll not beat Verstappen in even vaguely equal cars.
That's a very bold statement, and wrong.

Verstappen's second pass was on much fresher tyres for a start.

Most annoyingly when the safety car was called for Bottas, Hamilton was closing the gap on older tyres, was shaping up be a really interesting fight.

However most of all, Brazil was another nail in the legacy of Vettel. A multiple world champion who cannot race wheel to wheel.

Passed round the outside in turn one a number of times, yet pulled out of his attempt. Then he decides to move over on Leclerc in a carbon copy of his crash with Webber in Turkey in 2010 I think.

Ferrari need to ditch him, I can't believe he isn't considering retirement to be honest.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by westham,eggyandchips » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:36 am

White Goodman wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:20 pm
Great effort Bottas, clear that your engine was about to go pop and you went past the pits and caused a safety car.

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A safety car was Mercedes only real chance of winning the race. Bottas was only carrying out orders. :wink:

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by k-r-c » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:10 pm

was a strange race for Mercedes.

Hamilton following Leclerc through the middle part of the lap was what done it for him and allowed Verstappen back past - im surprised Hamilton didn't wait until the long straight so he could have got DRS - i'm sure if he could do that part again he would do that.

The second pass he just had no chance with the difference in tyres and don't know why Mercedes didn't pit too.

Their straight line speed was clearly down which was also shown by the inability to pass the toro rosso on the final lap.

The clash with Albon was a strage one for him as he's usually good at not making those mistakes but Albon left the door wide open and probably thought he could get up the inside and scare Albon out of it - and with the championship wrapped up he had nothing to lose.

Anyway was certainly a good race to catch up on as i couldn't watch it live.

As said above i think once again Vettel and Leclerc showing that next year is going to be fun for anyone but supporters in red as they battle with each other - its like the Rosberg Hamilton scenario coming again.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:57 pm

Was a good spectacle and hope that Honda continue to make progress with the power unit that will allow Verstappen to challenge the Mercedes team consistently.

Will Ferrari stick with Vettel? They can't in all good conscience go into next season with him as their No 1 driver and he certainly wouldn't accept being No 2 .

So they either bite the bullet and put all their money on Leclerc backed by someone further down the grid or face another season of Vettel and Leclerc derailing one another.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by wolf359 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:36 pm

Suggestions via F1 twitter/reddit sphere (I know) that Ferrari and a partners engine and fuel system have been confiscated by FIA for inspection and testing. If it is true it is rather too late and should have been done weeks ago, however I cannot find anything in the mainstream press regarding this so.....


As for Vettel, he is done, cannot race wheel to wheel any more (if ever) How about Sainz as a replacement, reliable, experienced and would likely jump at the chance.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:38 pm

Sainz is a potential world champion in the right car, so yes I'd agree.

I'd like to see him replace Bottas for next season.

That said I'd like to see that McLaren challenge again and they've made some decent strides this year

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by -DL- » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:29 pm

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Sainz is a potential world champion in the right car, so yes I'd agree.

I'd like to see him replace Bottas for next season.

That said I'd like to see that McLaren challenge again and they've made some decent strides this year
There's actually a couple of youngsters coming through that in the right car could be champion. Once Lewis retires/becomes un-competitive, MV, along with Le Clerc, Sainz, Russell, Ocon, maybe Norris - I think they're all good enough to be right up there if they get in decent cars (Obviously MV and Le Clerk already are).

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Post by wolf359 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:42 pm

Don't know if this is worth its on thread so I stuck it in here.

Did anyone else watch the FormulaE this weekend. Two races over a weekend. This will be the future and has come along way but it still feels very amateur, from the drivers not knowing the rules, the race director making a crazy decision (restarted the race after a safety car with people still on the track) and it all feeling a bit 'school' sports day.

However that all told, you cannot deny it is pretty exciting, over taking, dodgems and pretty much the whole field competitive.

It will develop and I'll be watching it this year, all races are on BBC website and iplayer. Though who ever thought getting that muppet Vernon Kay to present needs shooting.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Bend it like Repka » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:38 pm

I've watched it since last season and found it pretty enjoyable.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Denbighammer » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:20 pm

I watched the 2nd race. I thought it was quite good, like a mix of F1 & touring cars but around the old Detroit street circuit. Some lovely late breaking moves, mixed with some amateur hour shenanigans which made it all the more watchable IMO.

I dunno what channel I was on but the hour long highlights programme was refreshingly free of the Bolton Goon too :thup:

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:25 pm

Will watch if nothing else on.


Can't get away from the fact that almost every driver is an F1 reject.

Is probably where Stroll and Grosjean belong, although they most likely aren't good enough

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Bend it like Repka » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:35 am

Lando. :thup:


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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by wolf359 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:31 pm

The most dominant race of the year for Lewis, cruised home. Bottas 4th from last. Great battle in the midfield (which the F1 director decided not to show us the majority of) . LeClearc being investigated for illegal fuel reporting - a DQ would put the cherry on the top for a laughable season for the Italians.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Johnny Byrne's Boots » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:26 pm

Vettel was beaten by the car starting last on the grid. I hope he's let that sink in for a bit.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by wolf359 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:13 am

The dodgy Italians fined 50K, that going to hurt :P

Teams accuse them of using more fuel/burning oil, then there is some suggestion of them manipulating the flow meter which would cover up nay additional burning, now one of there cars is discovered with more fuel onboard than reported. Add to that once there was focus on this their performance has dropped like to stone. Nothing proven ofcourse but the little bits of evidence are adding up. Not that the FIA would do anything about it.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:56 am

More and more talk around Hamilton and Ferrari. Would be an utterly stupid move to go there with their current Keystone Cops approach.

Plus LeClerc isn't the patsy that Bottas is.

His best bet of number 7 is staying right where he is.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Chicken Run Supreme » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:49 pm

White Goodman wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:56 am
More and more talk around Hamilton and Ferrari. Would be an utterly stupid move to go there with their current Keystone Cops approach.

Plus LeClerc isn't the patsy that Bottas is.

His best bet of number 7 is staying right where he is.
Hamilton won't leave Mercedes to join Ferrari unless he believes he can win another title. He timed his departure to Mercedes from Maclaren to perfection. If and when he joins the Scudetto, I would expect his timing to be similarly spot on.

It's the ultimate dream for every F1 driver to win a title with Ferrari but Hamilton is canny and wouldn't go there if he thought it would be a wasted couple of years that took some gloss off what has been an outstanding career in F1.

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