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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by view from the shires » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:14 pm

I think Lewis does have issues with confidence, but I also think there is also a measure of kidology. He knew the others were coming out on newer tyres and his messages encouraged them to push straight away and remove as much life as possible from them. It was only a few races ago that he was ale to put in the quickest lap of the race on well-used hard tyres. Also Mercedes were the only ones to run the hards in practice so they had more info than anyone else. Danny Ricciardo was also showing exactly how they could hold up having run them from the start.

I also think that Lewis was putting down a marker on Max at the start ready for next year. He knows that the championship is won so he can put the young upstart in his place having spent all year avoiding him.

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Post by Johnny Byrne's Boots » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:47 pm

^^^^ I posted on a motoring forum a few months ago that Hamilton is very good at wearing out his opponents' tyres.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:29 pm

Wow. Lando first in Q1. Didn’t see that coming

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Post by aaronhammer » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:00 pm

Congratulations Lewis! 6 time champion, that is a phenomenal achievement and shouldn’t be underestimated.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by wolf359 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:19 pm

Great drive from the two mercs. Ferrari exploded now their ‘secret’ mode has been discovered. Red bull close again (as they often are towards the end of the season) I’m sure the bbc hys will be full of thinly-veiled racist critism of Hamilton. Good race, excellent track.

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Post by Johnny Byrne's Boots » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:40 pm

Ferrari secret mode? Do tell.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:27 am

Well done to Hamilton, doing exactly what is required at the right time. Been a very professional display by him this year.

I think he's had a fair amount of luck too with other teams screwing up their strategies and suffering unreliability but that's all part of the game and he's hoovered up every single chance that he's been given.

It's testament to his ability that he's actually made it look quite pedestrian and some of this year's stints on the hard tyres have been very impressive

Still hoping Red Bull can give Max ( and Albon) a car that can consistently challenge the Mercs next year as still believe Verstappen is the only driver that rattles Hamilton and would be great to watch.

Would like to see a good winter of development for McLaren too, the seeds of that seem to be there and their driver team is pretty solid , a promising first season from Norris and think Sainz in particular, in a truly competitive car would give the top teams a bloody nose pretty much every week.

And yes HYS on the BBC really does make me appreciate this place 🙂

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Post by wolf359 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:21 am

Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:40 pm
Ferrari secret mode? Do tell.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14695 ... i-intrigue

Max also called them out for it after this race

https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-on-fe ... -cheating/

No proof but their amazing speed advantage seems to have magically gone at CotA.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:23 am

You get that when you stop cheating :lol:

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by sendô » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 am

Hamilton wins again.

Meh.

F1 needs to get more competitive again to become more interesting.

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Post by Denbighammer » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:55 am

This season has been an odd one really. The only constant has been Hamiltons relentless form. Others have been as good as LH, if not better at times but nobody has consistently challenged him. In many respects it similar to Mark Marquez in MotoGP.

He is one of the all time greats. His racecraft is exceptional. Contrast him with Vettel who is great in a superior car when he can lead from the front but is all at Sea in wheel-to-wheel situations.

A well-deserved 6th title👍

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Post by wolf359 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:25 pm

Good article on Lewis and his lack of popularity in the UK

https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/spor ... -hamilton/

Thought this section was well done

"He hasn’t failed a doping test and blamed it on contaminated boar. Or denounced abortion and homosexuality. Or said a woman’s best place is in the kitchen.

But then again, Tyson Fury apologised. And he fought back from cocaine addiction. And he rose from the canvas twice in his draw with Deontay Wilder. And he’s a character. So let’s overlook all that.

He hasn’t been arrested and charged with affray. Or been banned for bringing his sport into disrepute. Or been pictured grabbing his partner by the neck.

But then again, Ben Stokes was found not guilty. And was man of the match for England in a World Cup final. And was heroic in the third Ashes test at Headingly. And explained he and his wife were only playing. So let’s overlook all that.

He hasn’t been involved in a regime now being investigated for systematic cheating. Or missed drugs tests. Or sought therapeutic use exemptions to gain an additional advantage.

But then again, Sir Mo Farah and Sir Bradley Wiggins are both national heroes. And both come from humble beginnings. And both have been knighted and won Olympic Gold. And both have been named BBC Sports Personality of the Year. So let’s overlook all that.

The examples could go on. As will the apathy towards an individual who is bizarrely afforded less respect and adulation from the British public than any of the above."

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Post by westham,eggyandchips » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:36 pm

sendô wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 am
Hamilton wins again.

Meh.

F1 needs to get more competitive again to become more interesting.
I stopped watching F1 for a few years when Schumacher was sweeping up. Think I may have to do the same now that Hamilton is doing the same. Its a poor spectacle.

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Post by westham,eggyandchips » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:41 pm

wolf359 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:25 pm
Good article on Lewis and his lack of popularity in the UK

https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/spor ... -hamilton/

Thought this section was well done

"He hasn’t failed a doping test and blamed it on contaminated boar. Or denounced abortion and homosexuality. Or said a woman’s best place is in the kitchen.

But then again, Tyson Fury apologised. And he fought back from cocaine addiction. And he rose from the canvas twice in his draw with Deontay Wilder. And he’s a character. So let’s overlook all that.

He hasn’t been arrested and charged with affray. Or been banned for bringing his sport into disrepute. Or been pictured grabbing his partner by the neck.

But then again, Ben Stokes was found not guilty. And was man of the match for England in a World Cup final. And was heroic in the third Ashes test at Headingly. And explained he and his wife were only playing. So let’s overlook all that.

He hasn’t been involved in a regime now being investigated for systematic cheating. Or missed drugs tests. Or sought therapeutic use exemptions to gain an additional advantage.

But then again, Sir Mo Farah and Sir Bradley Wiggins are both national heroes. And both come from humble beginnings. And both have been knighted and won Olympic Gold. And both have been named BBC Sports Personality of the Year. So let’s overlook all that.

The examples could go on. As will the apathy towards an individual who is bizarrely afforded less respect and adulation from the British public than any of the above."
Extremely lazy journalism.

Claims of "institutional racism" yet mentions Sir Mo Farah as being a national hero. A load of Bow-locks article. :thdn:

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by sendô » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:29 am

It's a couple of reasons really, one being as I mentioned above that F1 racing simply isn't exciting like Boxing or Cricket can be, and another being that, for all the good Hamilton does, he simply doesnt have the personality to get himself front and centre and get the public to like him.

Tyson Fury has personality in abundance and, for all his flaws, you can't help but like the bloke, can you?

I don't think people are going out of their way to dislike Hamilton, as that article seems to suggest.

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Post by Bend it like Repka » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:33 pm

sendô wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:29 am
he simply doesnt have the personality to get himself front and centre and get the public to like him.
I struggle to grasp this. People hero worship Kimi, yet he has as much personality as the terminator.

Both Damon Hill and Nigel Mansell were hero worshipped, yet neither of them are exactly colourful.

Hamilton refuses to fit the stereotype of a modern F1 driver, he has outside interests and does his own thing, rather than being a corporate robot.

Is Roger Federer acknowledged for his wit and humour? Or is he just admired because of his greatness.

I hate to play the Lammy card, but there is undoubtably an element of society that holds his colour against him, even if subconsciously.

In my eyes he is greater than Schumacher. Doesn't demand No1 status, he team mate is free to race, ever seen Hamilton cheat?

Most the first races were poor, up to and including France. Since then it's been a good season. Ferrari and Red Bull have been in the mix, the top 3 teams have been closer together.

Hamilton and Marquez are both geniuses of motor sport. Their dominance shouldn't deflect from their brilliance.

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Post by White Goodman » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:14 pm

Neither Mansell or Hill had social media to contend with.

Mansell in particular, the boring , massively insecure **** would have been ruined by it such would have been his unpopularity on there.

Raikonnen's muteness combined with his love of a drink is clearly what actually wins him fans .

Hamilton has a benign personality and sadly for him talks a lot of ****.

Talks about the slums of Stevenage, clearly wants to come from the ghetto so he can talk about his rise out of it . People tend to find that **** boring .

Ok your dad wasn't rolling in money as a kid, neither was mine but you don't get me banging on about it all the time and properly deprived people , don't EVER become F1 drivers.

Clearly not a childhood of abject poverty , just not rolling in it and was on the McLaren Young Drivers Support programme by 13 years old.

It's not exactly a mid 90s Rwandan upbringing.

Add to this his numerous stupid comments , the latest being about climate change and the environment and it's easy to see why people don't warm to him.

I don't dislike him, he's just a bit of a bellend.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by Bend it like Repka » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:41 am

Hoping for a real Lewis v Verstappen battle today.

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:53 pm

****ing Williams and charity case Kubica

Verstappen absolutely awesome though, breezing past Hamilton

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Re: Formula1 2019

Post by White Goodman » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:54 pm

And then back the other way. Great stuff

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