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Which is hardest

Post by brothernero » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:31 pm

This may have been asked on here before.

What in your opinion is the hardest to achieve, the most impressive.


Snooker, a 147
Darts, a 9 darter
10 Pin Bowling, a maximum score of 300
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Re: Which is hardest

Post by Rocketron » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:35 pm

It must be Cricket as you are dependant on the bowler.
All the others are down to you on your own.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by brothernero » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:40 pm

Rocketron wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:35 pm
It must be Cricket as you are dependant on the bowler.
All the others are down to you on your own.
I just edited out the cricket one funny enough for that very reason. :shock:

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by chelmsfordhammer91 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:35 am

I'd say a 147.

Seems to be more to get right and not just putting balls but placement of the white.

Would have thought 300 in bowling is most common from what I've watched on Sky.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by fjthegrey » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:45 am

Although unlikely, I think I could get a 9 darter. I have no talent for it at all but I can conceive of me getting in the zone, getting lucky, and it happening.

Similarly with the 300 in bowling. Hugely unlikely, but not an achievement beyond a conceivable level of skill.

A 147 in snooker. No chance. Not even close to it. Could practice for hours every day for the rest of my life and still be nowhere near it.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by sendô » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:07 pm

147 in snooker.

That's 15 reds in a row, each followed by the black (and only the black) every time, and then cleaning up the colours. Without your opponent nicking a single point first.

A 9 darter in darts is impressive, but the fast paced nature of darts means you're getting more opportunities, and as the name suggests, it's only 9 times in a row.

Bowling doesn't even count as a sport.

What was the cricket question? 36 off of an over?

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by Row X » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:56 pm

147 is the hardest by a long long way

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by brothernero » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:14 pm

Agree 147 . You have to complete 36 perfect shots, hold your nerves and more often than not will have at least 2 or 3 pretty tricky shots. Of Course you have to hold the white board in position throughout the break.

Added to the fact that I have been a Snooker fan since I was a about 6 and I have still yet to see anyone complete a 147 Maximum Break in LIVE play is getting right on my tits.

Seen many of them on highlights & Replays, just never seen one Live. It's not like I don't watch a small amount of Snooker either.


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Re: Which is hardest

Post by westham,eggyandchips » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:59 pm

All achievable with varying amounts of practice. But 147 would take the most practice, therefore the hardest.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by White Goodman » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:51 am

It's hard to say . The odds of getting a single event 9 darter (environmental conditions aside) are pretty much static, yet it doesn't happen very often , it was and remains a pretty rare occurrence.

Whilst undoubtedly incredibly hard , if the reds split a certain way in snooker ie room between the balls and off the cushions largely, black not blocked to bottom pockets then pretty much any player in the world's top couple of hundred has a fair chance of a 147.

To my mind Ronnie O'Sullivan devalued the feat by knocking on in in just over 5 minutes , the utterly mad b*stard. I won't live to see that beaten and I'm not sure the human race will either

Its why they don't pay much for it any more (that and less people watching than the 80s heyday) , too easy for the modern player.

Instead Ali Carter is sponsored by a Turkish Dentist FFS 😃

That said, the 9 darter has been devalued as well with the number now recorded. I'm sadly old enough to remember Paul Lim banging 1 in and wondering how that was possible.

It may be fair then to suggest that in both sports , the revered players of yesteryear were just **** and making a meal of these things.

Apologies, I'm on the modafinil today and it makes me hyper verbose sometimes, hence the rambling b*llocks above . I could go longer if it helps?

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by Bend it like Repka » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:43 am

None are as hard as West Ham winning 3 ****ing games in a row.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by Row X » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:42 am

I'll throw another one in there as the majority seems to agree the 147 is the hardest...

147 or a hole in one?

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by White Goodman » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:48 am

Row X wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:42 am
I'll throw another one in there as the majority seems to agree the 147 is the hardest...

147 or a hole in one?
A hole in one is way more dependent on luck , once of course you are proficient enough at golf to go from tee to green .

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by fjthegrey » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:51 am

Depends on the hole really doesn't it.

Wildly different levels of skill required dependent on a huge range of factors including weather, distance, obstacles.

Factors don't change with the original 3 achievements. The conditions are always the same. Different with Golf. Comparison doesn't quite hold up.

I would fancy getting a hole in 1 over a 147 though.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by sendô » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:31 am

I know amateur golfers who have got a hole in one. As pointed out above, once you're able to drive it far enough to go from tee to green on a par 3, you've got a chance at a hole in one by luck.

I don't know any amateur snooker players who have achieved a 147 break.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by White Goodman » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:53 pm

sendô wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:31 am
I know amateur golfers who have got a hole in one. As pointed out above, once you're able to drive it far enough to go from tee to green on a par 3, you've got a chance at a hole in one by luck.

I don't know any amateur snooker players who have achieved a 147 break.
Or any amateur darts players who’ve scored a 9 darter.

Jim Bowen was often keen to talk up ‘county level’ players on Bullseye but largely they were all ****ing **** and could barely string two twenties together on the show, let alone the number of treble twenties required to even get a chance at an outshot.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by White Goodman » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:58 pm

fjthegrey wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:51 am


Factors don't change with the original 3 achievements.
Don’t they?

I appreciate that is the case for the 9 darter as the conditions will always be the same regardless of what my opponent does but the 147?

If my opponent breaks and leaves every red ball near a pocket and an unimpeded black (at least to start with) or every other scenario on a sliding scale from hardest to easiest to complete a 147, are you saying it doesn’t matter which it is? It’s just as hard?

Maybe I’m just not reading what you posted the right way.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by Eggs'n'nuts » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:55 pm

I've played all three, but sadly haven't hit any of them. I'd say definitely the 147.

Darts - The board and the oche never move so it really is a case of your aim over a set length.

10 Pin bowling - Pretty much as darts. Pins set in the same place over a set length with the bonus of being guided by two sets of arrows.

Snooker - Although the table size never alters (assuming we're talking a standard 12'x6' table), the balls will never be in the same place twice once you break off. Therefore there's never just one way of achieving the maximum.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by brothernero » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:57 pm

Also re a 147 there is always a chance of getting a kick.


PS Must remember that there is actually a chance in Snooker of a 155, should you be left with a freeball. I think Jimmy White had a 155 in an exhibition or practice match.

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Re: Which is hardest

Post by White Goodman » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:02 pm

brothernero wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:57 pm
Also re a 147 there is always a chance of getting a kick.


PS Must remember that there is actually a chance in Snooker of a 155, should you be left with a freeball. I think Jimmy White had a 155 in an exhibition or practice match.
Jimmy’s problem isn’t getting a 147, it’s making sure that his hair doesn’t look like that found on a coconut

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