carnage wrote:I dont know why Kia gets a going over on here. The Tevez affair wasnt his fault, irrespective of whether he is a fraud, which BG also is btw, and a convicted one at that.
Good point. Not widely understood because Eggert Magnusson is his public face.
Hambrosia Stu wrote:Because he's a sleazy slimy piece of sh*t, out for his own hole, and seems happy to ignore any sort of decency whilst making his money from bending the rules as far as he can
Like the piano-playing dog says - that's life
Hambrosia Stu wrote:I agree the main finger of blame should be pointed at Terry Brown and all, for actually having anything to do with the slimeball, but there's no denying the slippery charlatan played a key role in the Tevez affair. It wouldn't have happened but for Kia
Yeah - we wouldn't have had Tevez in a West Ham shirt (something we'll be telling our grandkids about) if it wasn't for him... Makes me want to give him a big girly kiss on the bottom, frankly.
Our problems last season were largely down to Uncle Tel not wanting to invest before he sold (understandably) and Alan Pardew's alleged indiscretions. It's hard to realistically point the finger at anyone else - except for individual players' form (Marlene, NRC) and maybe that big, dirty bruiser Shaun Wright-Phillips.
My feeling is that we're better off without him in charge of WHU but that's really down to him clearly not having the money to do the deal (which clearly indicated he'd fund further investment from me - either by hoiking my season ticket price or by making the pies £5 each like at Arsenal). Most businessmen with any amount of success will have been either very lucky or (more likely) a bit slippery and ruthless here and there. Richard Branson is reputedly an utter cock to work for, for example. As I see it, the main differences between Joorabchian and our Icelandic benefactor are as follows:
1. Joorabchian (as Carnage points out) doesn't have a fraud conviction, Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson has (book-keeping and embezzlement charges relating to the 1985 collapse of Hafskip Shipping). He's been a little bit woooo, a little bit waaaay
* with a few rules here and there like payment rules in Brazil - but no convictions for actual fraud.
2. Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson clearly has more money to play with. He's ranked 799th on Forbes rich list (that's a global ranking) - his son, Thor is ranked #249 on the same list. Ker-ching! Say hello to Lucas Neill, Matthew Upson, Craig Bellamy, Kieron Dyer, Scott Parker, Freddie Ljungberg, Luis Boa Morte and (drum roll) last but not least, Nigel Quashie. If Kia Joorabchian was scratching around for the money to buy the club, my money says there's probably only one name on that list we'd have been able to afford - and it's the one that scores 19 in Scrabble with a 50 point bonus for using all your letters.
3. Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson's crew (principally through Eggert Magnusson's wide UEFA experience) understand football and the size of the task of bumping WHU from also-rans (you know it's true) to contenders. That's as opposed to really liking the idea of buying a club for £120m and getting £50m back in TV money alone in year one
. That said, don't think Gudmundsson is Santa Claus. He's looking at the sums, just maybe a little further down the line, maybe
4. Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson had Eggert Magnusson, a friendly-looking, grandfatherly figure head up the charge for West Ham. Santa has distracted flak by deploying a friendly elf. Kia Joorabchian on the other hand looks a bit foreign
and his relative youth makes people even more suspicious.
All the boos and stone throwing is beneath us, people. We've had the better deal in terms of benefactors (so far as we can tell in September 2007) so what's the biggy? In a nutshell: we're in a good place for now - thanks for Tevez, Kia.
*See The Fast Show for details