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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
If Newcastle go down: Krul, Janmaat, Colback and Sissoko could all be worth a shout. Quite like the look of Ayoze and all.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
You think that is a good tactic? It seems to me that it pretty much gtees their winger an easy opportunity to cross. I prefer to see a team make their opponent work to get a cross in. But agree, we should be looking to strengthen defensive midfield - though I would use that player to be the extra body in central defence rather than tuck the fbs in.Turns to Stone wrote:For the last two years prior to this one, we played with Demel and McCartney (O'Brien) as full-backs who were very, very defensive and doubled as centre-backs when required.
A technique that Allardyce uses very well, defensively is to have his two full-backs tuck in making a very tight back-four with the wingers (usually Downing and Jarvis last year) becoming make-shift full-backs in a back 6. With Noble and Taylor screening this made it very difficult for us to be broken down.
This year, Cresswell and Jenkinson look forwards, not backwards. Quite often when we have been caught out late in games it has been either because the full-backs have been caught out or because they weren't getting enough cover from their winger (often Valencia).
I'm all for attacking full-backs, but it means that you have to be very disciplined in the centre of midfield. When Song was playing well and sitting deep in the fist half of the season, it worked well, but when his form dropped or he would go looking for the ball, it often left us exposed.
If we are to continue with two attacking full-backs, we will need a very good solid, Makalele type central midfielder who can hold, break things up and distribute the ball well. Noble and Kouyate seem too attacking to do the job right now, but I think with the right coaching Kouyate could be able to do it.
Personally, I'd like to see Poyet given a chance in that role...see if we can't turn him into a new Micheal Carrick type.
Are we still linked with Diarra?
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
For clarity, when does the window actually open ?
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
Outs - Carlton, Jarvis, Nolan, O'Brien, Demel, Nene, Zarate, Jussi, Carroll and Valencia.
Ins - who knows? I haven't really thought this through!
Ins - who knows? I haven't really thought this through!
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
1st JulyBeliever wrote:For clarity, when does the window actually open ?
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
Bishops Finger wrote:Outs - Carlton, Jarvis, Nolan, O'Brien, Demel, Nene, Zarate, Jussi, Carroll and Valencia.
Ins - who knows? I haven't really thought this through!
and Downing and Jenkinson too
Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
With Hull relegated, I'd try to sign Michael Dawson, he's been one of Hulls best players this year, full of expereience as well. I think we also need a back-up keeper, Orjan Nyland of Molde has been linked, personally if I was in charge next year, I'd be looking to play a team of
Adrian
Jenkinson-Dawson-Reid-Cresswell
Ki-Kouyate
Gourcuff-Downing-Ferreria Carrasco
Carroll
Subs - Nyland, Tomkins, Robertson, Jarvis, Noble, Sakho, Austin
With Amalfitano, Nene and Collins as first choice back-ups. Giving a core group of 21, with keeping some more fringe players and signing some decent freebies for squad depth in the Europa League. Personally, think the team can finish top 8 and have a decent run in Europe, but maybe that's why I'm not the manager.
Adrian
Jenkinson-Dawson-Reid-Cresswell
Ki-Kouyate
Gourcuff-Downing-Ferreria Carrasco
Carroll
Subs - Nyland, Tomkins, Robertson, Jarvis, Noble, Sakho, Austin
With Amalfitano, Nene and Collins as first choice back-ups. Giving a core group of 21, with keeping some more fringe players and signing some decent freebies for squad depth in the Europa League. Personally, think the team can finish top 8 and have a decent run in Europe, but maybe that's why I'm not the manager.
Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
I wouldn't let AC anywhere near the team. Along with Nolan he'd be first out the door for me. Maybe Palace or back to Newcastle.
Any decent Croats that super Slav can bring with??
Any decent Croats that super Slav can bring with??
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
Not too sure that we need Dawson as he ain't any better than what we have plus it'd stifle the progress of our youngsters but the main problem I see in your post is that most teams we were up against would have a right moan up if we played 12 players....ironsjh wrote:
Adrian
Jenkinson-Dawson-Reid-Cresswell
Ki-Kouyate
Gourcuff-Downing-Ferreria Carrasco
Carroll
Subs - Nyland, Tomkins, Robertson, Jarvis, Noble, Sakho, Austin
maybe that's why I'm not the manager.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
To be fair it never actually closes. However if you sign a player outside of it then you probably unlikely to be able to play them unless not in contract in the first place.Believer wrote:For clarity, when does the window actually open ?
So, if we really wanted to sign anyone now we can but they won't 'officially' be signed until July 1st.
There will be plenty of players being signed and moving before July 1st.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
Much of this is academic, as it depends on. The system any new manager will employ.
I think we can dispense of a handful who are simply not Prem standard any more - OBrien, Demel, Nene.
I also think Nolan will join Sam at Fulham.
Talk of getting rid of Carroll, Valencia etc is ridiculous.
I think we can dispense of a handful who are simply not Prem standard any more - OBrien, Demel, Nene.
I also think Nolan will join Sam at Fulham.
Talk of getting rid of Carroll, Valencia etc is ridiculous.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
Really ?Claretdave wrote:Talk of getting rid of Valencia etc is ridiculous.
I can't remember when he last contributed a match winning perfomance .
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
I can't remember when any of our players contributed a match winning performance
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To "clear out" players before a new manager has had a chance to assess them is plain daft. You could say the same about anyone apart from possibly Adrian.the pink palermo wrote:
Really ?
I can't remember when he last contributed a match winning perfomance .
The only decisions that should be taken before the appointment of a new manager are for those out of contract.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
I don't see why anyone thinks it is ever a good idea to sign a player who has just been relegated. Leave well alone.
Outs: Nolan, Jarvis, Carroll, O'Brien, Zarate, Noble.
No idea who we will bring in, but I do think we should go for quality rather than quantity.
Outs: Nolan, Jarvis, Carroll, O'Brien, Zarate, Noble.
No idea who we will bring in, but I do think we should go for quality rather than quantity.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
I agree with that to a point CD but it's also same as someone dising out new long term contracts to players knowing full well the current manager is going but not knowing if the new manager wants them as well.
Shouldn't be any ins or outs really until we know who is going to be in charge.
That is the most important signing of the summer.
Shouldn't be any ins or outs really until we know who is going to be in charge.
That is the most important signing of the summer.
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Re: Ideal ins and out's in the summer? (Realistic(ish) only)
We have a Chairman who signs players but cannot sell any ?Claretdave wrote:To "clear out" players before a new manager has had a chance to assess them is plain daft. You could say the same about anyone apart from possibly Adrian.
The only decisions that should be taken before the appointment of a new manager are for those out of contract.