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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by fjthegrey » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:56 am

You think he'd join us for less money?

Not a chance.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Ozza » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:56 am

its not steep at a club like City is it, Loftus Cheek is on 65k p/w at Chelsea and Lindgard signed a 140k p/w deal last summer.

It's the challenge a club like ours faces in picking up fringe players from these clubs

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Colours never run » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:59 am

I've just been having a gander at recent loanees returning to Clubs and one name sticks out that interests me as a cheap attacking midfielder squad filler. It'll raise eyebrows due to his freak injuries whilst at Newcastle however he proved his fitness at PSV, Siem De Jong. If he was over his injuries I'd be happy to have him amongst our ranks.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Ozza » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:59 am

Colours never run wrote:If it's true he's currently on 80k a week (that does sound very steep based on very little at his age?), no team would be expected to pay more, at worst equal his pay. There is a bit of realism in the game and his agent will be aware not every Club is run like Man City and should demand any more. So we can knock at least 1 million a year off that wage packet.
Realism that if he moves club he wouldn't want more money, what you chatting about? If he doesn't get the deal he wants then he stays put, it's not difficult to work out

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Row X » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:02 am

Isn't there a rule that limits how many times a player can be registered to a different club in a year? If there is what is the limit?

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Bill » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:02 am

Realism is the last word I associate with players and agents! :lol:

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Crossd_Hammrs » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:05 am

Crouching Peeky wrote:It's better than a loan as the clause will only be activated if he performs very well, in which case we'll be compensated with making a profit on the transfer as well as benefitting from those performances.
I think it's worse than a loan. A loan doesn't tie up half of your transfer funds. And you know where you stand with a loan - you know the player returns to his club at the end of the season, so you can continue searching for a long-term solution.

Here's another scenario... could the buyback deal be triggered on transfer deadline day (next summer)? Let's say Aguero breaks his leg and Man City need to get someone in very quickly.
Colours never run wrote:But for that to happen, Ihaenahcho would have had to prove himself for a team to justify paying £10m+ more than we initially paid out for him.
Not necessarily, he only needs to have performed well enough to convince someone he has the potential to justify paying 10m+ more. And by next season, or the one after, that might be the going rate for a decent striker anyway.

If he scores 15 in a season for us, at age 20, what is the liklihood someone would be willing to pay 35 to 40m for him?
I think we're worrying ourselves too much over this huge buy back clause for us.
Probably.
I would like to see him here. But I understand why the board want to get more favourable deal.
There are other options too. I think some people are just desperate to see a striker signed as soon as possible.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Colours never run » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:08 am

Bill wrote:Realism is the last word I associate with players and agents!
I did caveat that with 'a bit'. :D

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Colours never run » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:09 am

fjthegrey wrote:You think he'd join us for less money?

Not a chance.

No, the same.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by fjthegrey » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:12 am

So why are we knocking a million off his wages?

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Crossd_Hammrs » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:13 am

Bill wrote:Now being reported that Man City are facing a possible transfer ban and that could be a problem.
I think the Spanish clubs that suffered transfer bans managed to delay the ban by appealing.
(Might have been Barcelona?) And they stockpiled players while they had the chance.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Colours never run » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:18 am

Crossd_Hammrs wrote:[te]
Probably.
I would like to see him here. But I understand why the board want to get more favourable deal.
There are other options too. I think some people are just desperate to see a striker signed as soon as possible.

Well speaking personally, I'm not desperate to see a Striker of his calibre sign (I'm one of the most patient when it comes to transfer windows), but what I am aware of is the chance of missing out on getting him allowing another team to step in and take advantage instead. I also share yours and the Daves view of concluding the most favourable deal we can and by all accounts this looks the most likely. At about £20m with at least a 35m buy back, I think it's a fairly good deal for him.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by hammerdivone » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:20 am

Once again people are stating weekly wage figures that are pure speculation, why do it?

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Colours never run » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:20 am

fjthegrey wrote:So why are we knocking a million off his wages?

Because it was being suggested he'd cost 5m a year instead.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Dan1326 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:20 am

Ben wrote:why not just give city 50% sell on clause, then at least it is a little more in our hands.
if he is as good as they fear he could become then he won't stay with us anyway and they will get some money in when we sell him.

50% on any profit surely

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Travelling Hammer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:26 am

Not convinced he would want to come to us (didn't he choose Leverkusen last time over us despite us offering more money?)

Anyway, Hernandez would be my first choice over all those other strikers. Proven record in England, Germany and Spain. Reminds me of Defoe.

If the Daves got this and Ihenancho over the line, I'd be mightily impressed

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by curlyboy86 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:27 am

So now were talking about how much in wages we would pay someone were not even sure is interested in joining us.

We missed our window of attracting real top players after our decent season. The repercussions from not building on that have been huge. Surely a lesson learnt for the owners.

I'm a realist and if we sign anyone of girouds quality we really have pulled off something this window.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by 1860OnceMoore » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:31 am

why are City being threatened with a transfer ban?

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Ben » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:33 am

fjthegrey wrote:Do the maths Ben. We'd probably make more money from having a buy back than a 50% sell on. If we spend £25mil he'd have to go for £50mil just for us to break even.

That's terrible. The chances of him going for that a minimal.
sell on clause is % of the profit

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017

Post by Ozza » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:33 am

1860OnceMoore wrote:why are City being threatened with a transfer ban?
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