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Post by ashbanki » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:05 pm

Let's see how they perform on the pitch first !! Not one of the recruits (bar third choice GK) has any experience in England - We have weakened our DM position (Obiang not replaced) People ,naively, seem to think that our offensive players will defend from the front.I hope I'm wrong, but,for the sake of a £10m- £20m decent DM we are not going to realise the ambitions of at least two of our "better players" (Rice,Diop, Anderson,et al) or the potential of our vast array of attacking players ,which will see inevitable departures at the end of the season,imo.
I blame Sullivan for his lack of proper investment and Pellegrini for ignoring the "gaping weakness"(Rice excluded) that is our DM which is exacerbated by very average and inconsistent(in defense) FBs! It was plain to see much of last season and still there in this summer's friendlies,imo.

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Post by traxop » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:05 pm

They're probably managing Reid the same way they managed Wilshere last season, allowing him to get up to speed on his own timetable. No point trying to rush him back in, we've got plenty of cover. Let him recover properly.

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Post by woodford » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:07 pm

ashbanki wrote:We have weakened our DM position (Obiang not replaced)
We had Obiang last season, how did that work out then?

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Post by coyi1973 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:07 pm

With Ajeti signed, it’s well possible that Hernandez will leave but it doesn’t have to be today as the European window lasts to the end of the month. That could leave Hernandez not named in the 25 and one place left in the squad for a foreigner. Just a thought.

Husillos makes a point today about Ajeti being an in the box player, similar quote earlier this week from Pellegrini regards to Hernandez. Are we expected to have two of the same type of player on the bench?

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Post by HammerAl » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:08 pm

Diangana needs a run of 10-15 games on the spin for us to see what he's really all about. Jury's still out for me, but a season in the Championship, playing for an attacking team like WBA or Derby would be much better for his development than staying with us. I can't see him getting in many match-day squads over the likes of Yarmolenko, Antonio or Lanzini.

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Post by bobd_uk » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:09 pm

ashbanki wrote:I blame Sullivan for his lack of proper investment and Pellegrini for ignoring the "gaping weakness"(Rice excluded) that is our DM which is exacerbated by very average and inconsistent(in defense) FBs! It was plain to see much of last season and still there in this summer's friendlies,imo.
I imagine that £20m CM players may well not fancy coming to a team who play 1 DM and have their highest rated and, arguably, most popular player already inhabiting that position?

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Post by e-20 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:10 pm

bobd_uk wrote: "ironilunga"- Only pity for me is that he did not go to a lower half prem side like Norwich. Would tell us much more about his potential to become a first teamer for us.

With us he'd be unlikely to make the bench. At Norwich I think he'd probably be a sub.

WBA are one of the top Championship sides and I think he may well start there. That's probably preferable - regular football in a promotion chase rather than occasional football in a relegation battle.
A lot of things to weigh up here and confidence building along with the experience alone is one of them. Being a part of a successful Championship Club will be very positive in that regard, if he can't play regularly for them then at his age and relative experience it would put big question marks over him that we would consider in regards to his future.

Playing for a (potentially) struggling Norwich side being a player of his attacking caliber could struggle to play regularly, less due to his own limitations and more to the fact the Team will increasingly look to play it 'difficult to beat' than be adventurous, which is more his style. Confidence starts to take a hit in those circumstances when risk is going to be kept to a minimum by the Manager and a flair player like him trying to make an impact with a risk element in his play is going to be under pressure to play it safe, or otherwise risk censure. Far more appropriate players with far less talent/potential to do that job for them. Always a narrow line here for Managers to choose an appropriate location for a young player and often luck plays a role, but West Brom would seem on balance a better fit than Norwich to me for a player like him.

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Post by Georgee Paris » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:13 pm

Please with the last few transfers - taken us from a c- to a b-

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Post by HammerAl » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:14 pm

I think it would now make sense to shift Hernandez. £140k p/w for a (probably now) fourth choice striker. I think MP would choose to play Haller, AA and Antonio over him. We only really need 2 or 3 strikers on our books as we're more than likely going to play one up top.

If it meant getting rid of Hernandez to bring in an athletic central midfielder, that's a no-brainer for me.

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Post by fjthegrey » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:17 pm

Know someone who wants to take his wages off our hands?

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Post by e-20 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:20 pm

paulhs1 wrote:Carroll's having a medical at Newcastle....what could go wrong 8-)
I feel sorry for anyone who has an appointment at a local hospital today, the nukes will need all the medical staff they can get hold of to get him through a medical.

As an aside just heard on Talksport that he has tried to convince them of his fitness by claiming he has had a specialist fitness coach working with him this Summer. Really, I wonder what he has been doing the past 10 then... apart from clubbing.

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Post by ageing hammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:20 pm

paulhs1 wrote:Carroll's having a medical at Newcastle....what could go wrong 8-)


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Post by prophet:marginal » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:23 pm

ashbanki wrote:We have weakened our DM position (Obiang not replaced)
woodford wrote:We had Obiang last season, how did that work out then?
A pair of assists at Goodison?

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Post by GaryP » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:24 pm

Chap at training ground on sky told no more deals and pellegrini doing news confernce in 10 mins.

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Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:24 pm

The Green Man wrote:Think I posted this before but I would imagine we've written into the deal that Diangana plays every week or a minimum amount of appearances. .
Unlikely, and nor should we insist on those clauses
Those clauses very rarely exist and don't benefit anyone
Almost certainly WBA won't agree to that. They are not a non-league team with players on less than 1k a week, but a top CHampionship side with experienced players on £30k+. I doubt their experienced professionals would accept a youngster coming in [an unproven one at that] and getting a guaranteed start

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Post by woodford » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:24 pm

well that wasnt very defensive minded of him was it

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Post by artlin » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:26 pm

hoptony wrote:Just seen a clip on Sky Sports of Ajeti training for the first time with the hammers, also in the clip was Winston Reid. didn't look crooked or about to retire like many are suggesting
Have you got a link for that, mate. Can't find it on Sky Sports. :thup:

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Post by Westbourne Bill » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:26 pm

Hernandez is a proven Prem goal scorer - Ajeti is clearly one for the future with it all to prove at this level which is why he was relatively cheap. I doubt MP has, in his mind, relegated Hernandez to 4th choice striker.

Meanwhile SSN are reporting Spurs are willing to let Wanyama go on loan by 5pm...not that we deal with Levy anymore.

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Post by Irrons » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:27 pm

GaryP wrote:Chap at training ground on sky told no more deals and pellegrini doing news confernce in 10 mins.
So no Obiang replacement then...leaving a potential gap in the squad. Let's all just cross our fingers and toes that Rice doesn't get injured this season and Wilshere, Noble, Snodgrass and Sanchez somehow find an extra yard of pace this year

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Post by bobd_uk » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:27 pm

artlin wrote:Have you got a link for that, mate. Can't find it on Sky Sports. :thup:
It's on their deadline day live page thing.

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