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Re: The summer transfer window 2019 thread

Post by Gsbgsb » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:52 pm

Thing is most clubs who might want Hernandez are likely paying their top players around £50k a week and see zero sell on value so might pay circa £5m for him. Given that we would have to pay at least that £5m to him to compensate for lost wages (he can no doubt see a substantial signing on fee when he is on a free next summer as well) is it a deal really worth doing or do we keep him until at least January by when we know if the new guys have settled or are Zaza mark 2?

Yes if we sell it frees up a spot but unless there is a player we are really keen on all that would do us add another squad player for say £10-£15m when next summer that could be used to augment a real first team choice as Sanchez leaves.

Too often recently the planning has been short term - I do feel that MP/MH take a longer view with planning and signings with quality trumping quantity whenever possible.

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Re: The summer transfer window 2019 thread

Post by ashbanki » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:52 pm

Pulgar, who we had been linked ,moved to Fiorentina for £11m and £20k a week+ bonuses!!

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Re: The summer transfer window 2019 thread

Post by Hugh Jargon II » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:53 pm

Pelli on sky sports

"Is that definately done. Business. This window??"

" No. Mumble mumble mumble"

No ****ing idea what he said. Pardon?
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Post by e-20 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:53 pm

EastVillageHammer wrote:Andy Carroll will be fit for both West Ham games, and no more than those games. He will score against West Ham in both games.

So sayeth the jealous and spiteful football Gods.
... And whoever is refereeing unless they are one and the same thing as in the case of Graham Poll.

On a similar thought I wonder how often VAR mysteriously goes AWOL when we play a top 6 club.

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Post by Colours never run » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:55 pm

kitthehammer wrote:I still think we are missing a decent defensive midfielder. We need someone who is better than Rice, Sanchez and Noble.

You will struggle to get someone better than Rice as a Defensive Midfielder, unless you paid through the roof for one and even then it would be a waste of time as Rice is already the real deal who will only get better with age.

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Post by YorksHammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:57 pm

ashbanki wrote: People ,naively, seem to think that our offensive players will defend from the front.
Or, you know, people have watched and seen that this is what our offensive players, and especially our signings, do. Numbers from last season:

Haller - 0.8 tackles and 0.5 interceptions per game (vs Arnautovic, 0.3 and 0.1)
Fornals - 1.4 tackles and 0.7 interceptions per game (vs Snodgrass, 1.3 and 0.3)
Anderson - 2.5 tackles and 1.1 interceptions per game
Lanzini - 1.2 tackles and 0.9 interception per games (low number of games last season, but similar numbers in 15/16 and 16/17)

We've got players that tackle in our front four, and they'll be looking to press the defenders - they all do it, and Haller notably is a massive upgrade at it against Arnautovic.
kitthehammer wrote:I still think we are missing a decent defensive midfielder. We need someone who is better than Rice, Sanchez and Noble.
That's a pretty bold claim to make, for me - I do think Rice has his faults, but I don't think we can start to push him down the pecking order right now. We need someone better than Sanchez as a DM. Noble isn't the same type of player as either of them, and is more likely to be the passer alongside - probably second to Wilshere for that role when he's fit, unless Pellegrini pulls Lanzini or Fornals deeper.

More over, I just don't think Pellegrini wants one.
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Re: The summer transfer window 2019 thread

Post by Hamsta » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:57 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote:Pelli on sky sports

"Is that definately done. Business. This window??"

" No. Mumble mumble mumble"

No ****ing idea what he said. Pardon?
Haha glad it wasnt just me - I was trying to decifer it so I could post the quote on here - replayed it 3 times then gave up.

Although I think he said something like "No I think thats sorted" - meaning we are done - but could be wrong

He could have meant "No sdfjsdfskdjf" we are not done.

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Post by Het-Field » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:57 pm

Rice is nailed on our DM in front of the defence. Top up and coming player.

We’d need to spend £60 Million to make any difference.

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Post by Derby Hammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:58 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote:Pelli on sky sports

"Is that definately done. Business. This window??"

" No. Mumble mumble mumble"

No ****ing idea what he said. Pardon?
I rewound it and listened a couple of times. Still none the wiser.

I would hazard a rough guess at something like, “No, we’re ok now.”

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Post by Hamsta » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:58 pm

From BBC transfer feed:

West Ham boss Manuel Pellegrini is speaking in his pre-game news conference ahead of Saturday's Premier League opener against Manchester City.

He starts by giving his thoughts on new signing Albian Ajeti.

"We lost three strikers from last year's squad, so he is a good striker to compete with Chicharito, Antonio and Haller for that position," he said.

"I'm happy because we have completed the squad in the way we wanted. We have two players in each position and the best way is to have competition. We have done what we needed."

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Post by Irrons » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Shaun Newton wrote:After watching this video, I will be upset if I don't see him with crossed forearms by 5!

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His two major attributes:
- Tackling
- Turning defence into attack quickly.

If the asking price of 15mil is true, this is by far one of the biggest cock-ups from the owners. I say owners because Pellegrini said clearly he would replace Obiang.
The guy is the dogs b*llocks, Sulli needs to recall that loan he made to his mate and throw everything we have at getting him in so we can challenge for the league title :lol:
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Re: The summer transfer window 2019 thread

Post by ageing hammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Rice is our number one DM and Sanchez is his back up for now, we don't need another one we are fine, we can exchange Sanchez next season.
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Re: The summer transfer window 2019 thread

Post by Marky » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Het-Field wrote:Rice is nailed on our DM in front of the defence. Top up and coming player.

We’d need to spend £60 Million to make any difference.

And if he is injured panic stations and hello Carlos

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Post by YorksHammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:00 pm

Hamsta wrote:"We lost three strikers from last year's squad, so he is a good striker to compete with Chicharito, Antonio and Haller for that position," he said.
I think that answers our question on what position Pellegrini considers to be Antonio's main one.

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Post by fjthegrey » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:01 pm

We could replace Rice for way less than £60mil.

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Post by Hammerguy » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:04 pm

ageing hammer wrote:Rice is our number one DM and Sanchez is his back up for now, we don't need another one we are fine, we can exchange Sanchez next season.
Thats why the DM needs to complement rice and not be a direct backup. A players who has more movement and agressive in the mould of Ascacibar, our problem is when Jack gets injured we are left with noble and sanchez to fill that gap.

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Post by Het-Field » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:04 pm

Marky wrote:

And if he is injured panic stations and hello Carlos
You won’t attract a world class player to sit on the bench behind Rice, or you’re wasting Rice’s development by benching him.

You can draw a similar situation with our keepers, out Number 1 who has had amazing PL stats to our Number 3 who has not played in the PL.

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Post by Supreme » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:05 pm

Pelle said in his presser 'No, we are ok now'. And that he is happy with the squad.

I would say that is it for us. Yes a specialist DM would have been nice but its not like we are absolutley down to the bare bones there - we have Rice, Sanchez, Wilshere, Fornals, Lanzini, Noble that all play CM (even Zab at a stretch).

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Post by YorksHammer » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:08 pm

fjthegrey wrote:We could replace Rice for way less than £60mil.
And yet some on here would be furious if we sold for less than that.

Non-WHU so everyone can ignore me if they want, but - does anybody understand how 'image rights' can stop a transfer happening (i.e. Dybala to Spurs)? Because I really don't get that - is it to do with the player having a personal sponsor (like Adidas) and them not wanting the player pictured wearing a rival brand (like Nike)? Or something else completely?

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Post by e-20 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:10 pm

HammerAl wrote:Horses for courses. In some matches we won't need to play with two DMs, but in others we will. Our ball retention will be better with the likes of Rice, Wilshere and Fornals in the middle, but I'm still worried about how easy it will be for the opposition to waltz through the middle.
Totally agree with OohAahbutler within the limitations imposed Management have played a blinder, at least on paper and deserve a medal, but yes I think you are spot on in that last line of yours, it truly gives me fears I last had when behind the settee hiding from the Daleks ... Or more commonly known as last season.

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