Manuel Pellegrini: West Ham United’s 17th manager

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

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chigwells finest wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:38 pm id imagine if gerrard went after a player for us, his standing in the game would bump us well up in any queue for said player ! if you're clued up and really know what youre doing i dont think age/experience comes into it imo . how old wa jose when he won europa league with porto ?
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Monkeybubbles wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 am And yet when I politely expressed the opinion that Pelligrini should be given time to sort it, I was called a troll and you supported that.

:lol: Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

BTW suggesting Pellegrini be given more time was not the reason you were called a troll. It was the reasons you were putting forward to explain his team selections, particularly Zabaletta which were becoming more incredulous with every post.
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Sloop John B wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:45 pm Would rather have Lampard as the boss.
Wash your mouth out!
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Pop Robson wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:21 am Whats he got left on his contract 1.5yrs ?

Can't see them paying him off, they kept Grant until it was as cheap as possible to get shot of him
I don't think the cost of relegation could be termed as cheap, although Brady saved 20p on fuel by having the team coach return one person lighter.
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The concern about Pellers is he has never been a long-term builder manager. His longest stint at a club was Villarreal, and he was there for only four seasons. Everywhere else he averages a couple of seasons. We are the 14th team he has managed in the last 30 years!

Couple that with his age, and the fact he seems to be winding down his career (spell in China) and it makes him hard to back.

I don’t see what the upside is going to be at the end of his three years. The defense is going backwards and now we are looking toothless. If he was a charismatic leader like Bobby Robson I could see us outperforming, but he is a very languid, laid-back character.

We are just the latest in a long-line of clubs for a journeyman manager, so I cannot see why he will be especially bothered about how it all pans out in the longer term.
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Kialos wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:21 pm I don't think the cost of relegation could be termed as cheap, although Brady saved 20p on fuel by having the team coach return one person lighter.
He tried. Nobes had to give him 20p!
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Gonzo from Hammers Chat on Youtube alluded to the fact that Pellegrini is on a 12 month rolling contract. Is this true? If this is so, how on earth can this be a good basis to build a team or squad? Rhetorical btw, it clearly isn't and we shouldn't be surprised we are where we deserve to be.

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Ironing Board wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:23 pm The concern about Pellers is he has never been a long-term builder manager. His longest stint at a club was Villarreal, and he was there for only four seasons. Everywhere else he averages a couple of seasons.
Wrong.

He was at Villarreal for 5 seasons. He spent 3 seasons at Malaga and 3 seasons at Man City. Real Madrid is the only place in Europe where he has left after less than 2 seasons. Stop making up b*llocks you boring troll.
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Samba wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:16 pm Wash your mouth out!
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Wouldn't come to us but Chris Wilder, I believe, would be a great manager for us. BS aside between ourselves and the Blades, he would play good football here, we are dying for two up top and three at the back. Our CBs already get forward, might as well have someone that can make them go forward with a point.

Other than him... Bowyer could be worth a punt.
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Patito wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:32 pm Wrong.

He was at Villarreal for 5 seasons. He spent 3 seasons at Malaga and 3 seasons at Man City. Real Madrid is the only place in Europe where he has left after less than 2 seasons. Stop making up b*llocks you boring troll.
Quite right - I got my sums wrong on Villarreal. An honest mistake. But he was only at Malaga for two and a half seasons, not three. And he does average about two seasons per club.

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cmoore4099 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:12 pm Wouldn't come to us but Chris Wilder, I believe, would be a great manager for us. BS aside between ourselves and the Blades, he would play good football here, we are dying for two up top and three at the back. Our CBs already get forward, might as well have someone that can make them go forward with a point.

Other than him... Bowyer could be worth a punt.
And he worked his way through the leagues like a proper manager
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Ironing Board wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:06 pm Quite right - I got my sums wrong on Villarreal. An honest mistake.
Nothing honest about it. You don’t like the bloke but he’s won more than you ever have, Jane.
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Patito wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:10 pm Nothing honest about it. You don’t like the bloke but he’s won more than you ever have, Jane.
I see that you pick one error from the post, while completely ignoring all of the arguments within. Perhaps as you are so in thrall that you cannot see the truth before your nose
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Kialos wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:16 pm :lol: Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

BTW suggesting Pellegrini be given more time was not the reason you were called a troll. It was the reasons you were putting forward to explain his team selections, particularly Zabaletta which were becoming more incredulous with every post.
You mean the one post I made about selection? The one I made after you called me a troll? You accused me of trolling because of a post I made after you accused me of trolling? :lol:

You really are a strange man, making stuff up like that. Calm down.
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Sp*rs home
Ch*lsea away
Wolves away
Arsenal home

Lose the next 3 he is gone.
Maybe 1 point might give him the home match vs Arsenal.
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Ironing Board wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:12 pm And he worked his way through the leagues like a proper manager
Like Manuel did? But not someone like Pep, who must be crap. What did Fergie have, a couple years at East Stirlingshire?
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Wilko1304 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:18 am Like Manuel did? But not someone like Pep, who must be crap. What did Fergie have, a couple years at East Stirlingshire?
Also St Mirren and Aberdeen, where he broke Old Firm dominance and won a Cup Winners Cup.
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Ironing Board wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:32 pm I see that you pick one error from the post, while completely ignoring all of the arguments within. Perhaps as you are so in thrall that you cannot see the truth before your nose
There were numerous errors in the post, more than one. I’ve pointed them out and you’ve ignored them. There’s no point discussing a post when the whole thing is based on lies. Try again.
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Patito wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:26 am There were numerous errors in the post, more than one. I’ve pointed them out and you’ve ignored them. There’s no point discussing a post when the whole thing is based on lies. Try again.
Only if you count his career as only consisting of his European years, and even then you have to do some mental gymnastics, like rounding his two and a half seasons at Malaga into three seasons.

Having said that, if we use just his European jobs he does average 2.9 years per job. Even then, this is not the stuff on which long-term stability is based.
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