Manuel Pellegrini: West Ham United’s 17th manager

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Tenbury » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:45 am

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Wilko1304 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:00 am

For what it's worth, whilst I think his time is as close to over as it could be without the door hitting him on the way out, it doesn't mean he's a bad manager. And I mean a bad manager now, let alone the people somehow deciding he was never good.

Things can become problematic. Cycles can end. Something can happen that shatters the illusion and breaks something in the spell of a manager. Who can say what might have been had Fab not got injured? Or that extra midfielder come in?

S*** happens

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by OFT » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:42 am

Ironing Board wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:42 pm
To be honest, I’ve been doing so much driving today, that I have no idea!
slight edit
:D
You on the golf course with Pellers IB? ..nice

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Graza » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:21 am

TheHandOfDog wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:13 pm
As much as I'd love to pin this entirely on the board, it just isn't the case. Yes it was a disaster to let Obiang go in my opinion, we needed him a few times already this year. What gets me with MP is his lack of capability to motivate the likes of Anderson who have been awful this year, you throw in Fornals, with Antonio injured. Our forward line is dire in terms of form right now. We have honestly looked more dangerous with Snodgrass playing in one of the front 3 and that just should not be the case with Fornals/Anderson available. We also have our best player out injured in Fab and have replaced him with some waiter.

I would not sack him, I feel we will always be in the 9th-17th spot so why bother. At the very least when things are not as dark, MP has us playing the football I want to see. Keep.
I definitely don't think you can pin this solely on the board. The ability to motivate the players, to instill a bit of pride and passion in them is definitely something that needs to come from the manager and senior players to a great extent.

But the squad has been gutted of depth meaning we can't absorb injuries and the someone in the club is briefing the press against the manager. The pet fansites are spinning it as the fans getting restless and "calling" for a Moyes like manager. None of that is helping.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by westhamlinnet » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:22 am

I am amazed at out summer signings haller was much too much money we didnt need fornals as we needed a stronger more physical player as for roberto enough said. Ajeti does not look premier class but early days coupled with all the outgoings and as for giving wheelchair jack a three year contract scandalous . I believe hussilos was a disaster at malaga last job with player recruitment. This in no way absolves the board for under investment

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by iLoveLasagne » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:01 pm

It is scandalous that he can be earning 8-10m per season. All he does is play 1 formation with no varying of tactics besides tinkering with the full-backs and central defence partnerships with no real improvements; rather detriment at times. Substitutions and in-game tactics show no deviance from the singular approach for everything.

I can proudly state that I have never adhered to the mantra 'in Pelle we trust'

Pelle is not the entire problem but is a big problem.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Phil S » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:07 pm

So now it's the fans fault as we wanted Pellegrini :thdn: Burnley protest forced their hand...

Sweet jesus how low are these lot going to stoop

Funny enough the word was that we'd signed him up months before the fans knew anything

so which was it?

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by ageing hammer » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:29 pm

Phil S wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:07 pm


Sweet jesus how low are these lot going to stoop

A limbo dancer would be like a high jumper compared to this lot

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:32 pm

OFT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:42 am
slight edit
:D
You on the golf course with Pellers IB? ..nice

:wink:
Getting briefed! :lol:

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Sloop John B » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:33 pm

Interesting that Ex is saying Pellers hasn't lost the dressing room.


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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:36 pm

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As a kid did you dream that one day you’d be role playing David Moyes on a football forum? :lol:
Not really - I dreamt I would be sitting in a posh hotel enjoying a well-earned holiday. Dream achieved!

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:36 pm

Sloop John B wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:33 pm
Interesting that Ex is saying Pellers hasn't lost the dressing room.

That’s encouraging- the team is currently performing to his optimal abilities!

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:37 pm

Sloop John B wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:33 pm
Interesting that Ex is saying Pellers hasn't lost the dressing room.

That’s encouraging- the team is currently performing to his optimal abilities!

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by ageing hammer » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:42 pm

Either that's a double post or Ironing Board has a very serious stutter.

The hammer with a stammer :lol:

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Lovejoy2 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:44 pm

Realistically I think he's got 2 more games to turn it around, Chelsea at the weekend is a write off with no one expecting anything other than a defeat, Wolves away will be a really tricky game but it'll show what he's got in his locker and if he can get this team motivated, failing to get at least a point from either match would IMO see him sacked, i'd expect us to appoint a caretaker manager for the Arsenal game with a full time replacement lined up for the match against Southampton the following weekend.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by hammerman11 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:44 pm

he must have lost the dressing room because if he hasn't yet that means the performances will be even worse when he does and the wasters down tools!

I am unsure how much worse Anderson yarmolenko haller fornals cresswell diop Balbuena and Roberto can be ?

perhaps they are waiting for ogbonna rice noble Snodgrass and Antonio to stop trying; then we will be in real trouble !

we shall see on Saturday how hard they try to keep the score down.

even if we were in form I would have us down to lose this narrowly 2-1 , but in our current form I expect a 6-0 defeat and pelle sacked on sunday !

we need to hurry up anad man walking before the other clubs take our main targets of dyche and howe.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Lovejoy2 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:49 pm

Can anyone recall who was the last Premier League manager to resign? For obvious reasons (compo) managers never seem to walk these days?!

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by szola » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:51 pm

We are six points off 5th place.
Why should he resign?

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:52 pm

ageing hammer wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:42 pm
Either that's a double post or Ironing Board has a very serious stutter.

The hammer with a stammer :lol:
I don’t have a st-st-st... there’s nothing wrong with the way I talk!

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:57 pm

”Malaga famously reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League in the 2012-13 season under Pellegrini, with Husillos having overseen an expensive refit of the squad bankrolled by president Abdullah ben Nasser Al Thani.

“However, the club has struggled to hit those heights in more recent years while under more stringent financial controls, and they were relegated from LaLiga this season.”

The problem is clear now - we missed out the Arab oil money “expensive refit” part of the strategy, and have skipped straight to the relegation part. Maybe Pellers likes directness in football after all!
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