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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by HammerMan2004 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:35 am

Delighted he scored yesterday but even to the point it was rolling over the line I wasn't confident he was scoring. Hope he finds a bit more confidence and can deliver more consistently.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by The Old Man of Storr » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:36 am

I think he's been working hard with not much help from those alongside him , yesterday's goal was sublime .

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by debaser_74 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:37 am

There's been a good few occasions this season where he has taken control of a long ball like that, or nutmegged a defender, pirouetted out of a defender's challenge only to give the ball away cheaply straight after. No-look passes into open space or to the opposition instead of a team mate and little flicks that would look great if they lead to something but 9 times out of 10 squander possession have been his trademark. Whatever had sucked the confidence out of him was missing yesterday as he all of a sudden had the ability to take on a full back, deliver a decent pass and actually shoot. His work rate and tracking back has been decent mostly but what he did after winning the ball back was usually gash. Yesterday was his best game in a year, more of the same please Filipe :thup:

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by westlondonhammer » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:38 am

As many goals in 19 hours of 2020 as he did in 2019?

I thought he was fantastic yesterday... the cute pass for Snodgrass to set up Noble... the goal... his inter-play with Haller at times

My view was he suffered when he got a lot of stick for not tracking back and adapted his game to be focused on what was going on more behind him that in front of him... at the detriment of his attacking prowess. Take away those responsibilities and only expect him to defend from the front (like the first 4 - 5 months at the club... and then yesterday where he was constantly trying to force an error) and we see a very different player.

If we can accept that the primary defending he should be doing is pressuring the oppositions defence and that when he loses the ball he should trust the 8 / 9 behind him to win it back (he shouldn't be trying to win it back himself more often than not) and think about the next phase of play when they have then we will get the most out of him.

Just his presence supporting Haller (in a different way to how Pellers tried a few weeks back) up top made for a different dynamic.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by sendô » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:42 am

He looked much better playing through the middle.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by denzel » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:01 am

BromleyHammer wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:56 am
Anderson was inconsistent at Lazio and would go from world beater to non league in the space of a week. My Lazio supporting colleague told me this at the time we signed him. Never worth what we paid for him
The Lazio fans I know would love him back.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by claretchris » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:36 am

Thought there was a noticeable difference (Drop off) in our closing down further up the pitch when he was replaced by Lanzini. So much of his work in defence can be unnoticed, but he was very effective yesterday.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by SiO » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:49 am

Funny old game, Saint. I felt that he was the weakest link yesterday... Slowed down good attacks, passed behind the man. Still happy that he kept going and had the class to pick out some nice passes. Not suggesting he's poor by any means but don't understand the superlatives myself.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by kayahammer » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:57 am

claretchris wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:36 am
Thought there was a noticeable difference (Drop off) in our closing down further up the pitch when he was replaced by Lanzini. So much of his work in defence can be unnoticed, but he was very effective yesterday.
I've noticed how many balls he wins. Great timing in the tackle. Would love to know how many tackles he's won on average compared to the rest of the team.

And yesterday he bossed the pitch. Good lad :D

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by boleyn24 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:06 am

Did anyone else notice his reaction to Haller goal, its brilliant

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by S-H » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:08 am

boleyn24 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:06 am
Did anyone else notice his reaction to Haller goal, its brilliant
Yes! :lol:

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by PlaistowIron » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:10 am

You could almost see the weight lifted of his shoulders when his effort hit the net. Pleased for him.

His reaction to Haller’s goal was indeed great!

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by denzel » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:13 am

kayahammer wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:57 am
I've noticed how many balls he wins. Great timing in the tackle. Would love to know how many tackles he's won on average compared to the rest of the team.
From memory he was in the top 10 for the entire Premier League for pretty much the whole season. Finished 9th. Only Rice had more, he finished 7th.

Rice (4th) and Fredericks (6th) highest for us this season so far.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by S-H » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:18 am

denzel wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:13 am
From memory he was in the top 10 for the entire Premier League for pretty much the whole season. Finished 9th. Only Rice had more, he finished 7th.
A drum, our friend Mr Patito has been banging, ever since Anderson was first signed.

Where is Patito by the way? I miss the argumentative bugger.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by Clacton-ammer » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:18 am

Under the last few games of Pellers there have been signs of him returning to form, last night was great for him & us, the sublime ball from Rice (please keep trusting your offensive passing Dec!!) the take & finish was beautiful.

I do like him in the middle, drifting in, has a lovely weight to his passes and does see passes others in the team don't.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by fjthegrey » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:22 am

Anderson has made 130 tackles and 62 interceptions since he started playing for us.

For comparison, Rice has 162 and 94 respectively. Both of them have played exactly 54 games in that time.

For further comparison, N'Golo Kante has made 106 and 75, although that is only across 50 games.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by aboogers » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:26 am

First post, but been reading the forum daily for probably more than 15 years... finally sorted myself with an account. I thought Anderson was trying hard yesterday but looked low on confidence and things weren't really going for him until the goal. Hoping that will be the spark he needs to push on now :crest:

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by Aceface » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:41 am

It's the domain of the saddo armchair manager to suggest new positions for players, but given Anderson's foremost ability even when the rest of his game might be off is the ability to find a short pass that creates an extra second of space, why he doesn't get a run out centrally behind the striker every now and again. It's not like we have a true number 10 who's blocking a bit of experimentation there. Of all our players he's the one where the talent is so clearly present but seemingly so difficult to translate into anything like its full potential. The last player you'd probably describe in anything like that fashion was Arnautovic who was also not able to be effective here when he was out wide.

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by happydaystoytown » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:44 am

fjthegrey wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:22 am
Anderson has made 130 tackles and 62 interceptions since he started playing for us.

For comparison, Rice has 162 and 94 respectively. Both of them have played exactly 54 games in that time.

For further comparison, N'Golo Kante has made 106 and 75, although that is only across 50 games.
He's not selling himself enough, he's a bit too languid for his own good, he needs to look busier and maybe chuck in the odd two footed, studs up challenge, then we'll believe in him!

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Post by denzel » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:47 am

S-H wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:18 am
A drum, our friend Mr Patito has been banging, ever since Anderson was first signed.

Where is Patito by the way? I miss the argumentative bugger.
He's doing alright :thup:

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