David Moyes' Claret and Blue Army!
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
That’s the thing. We played both systems in both half’s. First half we lost 2-0, second 2-1. Leicester are just too young and fast for us.
One thing we need to do is bench Lanzini. He is done.
One thing we need to do is bench Lanzini. He is done.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Zabaleta has played his 4th game in 17 days. He actually put in a couple of ok performances in those, but the problem isn’t him. It’s the fact that a 34 year RB is having to play 4 matches in less than 3 weeks. Mark Noble is playing week in week out. Declan Rice cannot be given a rest either. Our squad is in a shocking state. All it took was an injury to a goalkeeper (Fabianski) and forward (Antonio) for our season to fall apart. At this moment in time we are even worse off with 3 others injured.
Our squad players are either old, useless or injury prone and probably didn’t even cost £5m in transfer fees between them. A shambles.
Moyes can perhaps take some blame for dropping Fornals and going so negative to start, but he doesn’t have options. We’re on our 5th game in 22 days and he can’t rotate.
Our squad players are either old, useless or injury prone and probably didn’t even cost £5m in transfer fees between them. A shambles.
Moyes can perhaps take some blame for dropping Fornals and going so negative to start, but he doesn’t have options. We’re on our 5th game in 22 days and he can’t rotate.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
What's left of his reputation currently going through the mincer. A dinosaur.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Sorry, at the start of the season everyone was w*nkong themselves off that we will challenge the conventional big 6. Cresswell was on the radio in October saying this is the best squad he’s been part of as it has so much depth.
I don’t buy the go-to excuse for the managers we’ve had this year that the squad isn’t good enough.
Don’t get me wrong we aren’t great by any stretch but are we worse than Watford, Southampton, Sheffield United and Brighton who are all outperforming us?
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Pellegrini landed us in this mess but its Moyes fault lol. We have 1 striker. a full back aged 96. The other full back offers very little. 2 players in midfield combined age 65. Yup Moyes fault mate. The team is crap without pace and Anderson is a huge miss. We have 2 players only who can turn games. One is Anderson, other Antonio.brothernero wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:34 pm Mentioned this in another thread. the radio claimed the other day that Moyes had been interviewed by 5 Championship clubs, one 1 League 1 club and 3 Premier League clubs since his first stint with us.
Why did they all say no and yet we went begging cap in hand for him.
Out of work, cheap, desperate and a yes man is my reasons we now have him.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Why is he pursuing this nonsense of flipping between 5 at the back and 4 at the back during the matches? Does he think he is some kind of tactical genius?Ironing Board wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:36 pm That’s the thing. We played both systems in both half’s. First half we lost 2-0, second 2-1. Leicester are just too young and fast for us.
It will be extremely confusing for the players, and no wonder their positioning is a bit all over the place
Decide on your defensive system, and stick with it. I can just about understand you may want to change the system for certain games, but no one else really does that, and no one else does it every 15 minutes!
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Stroke of genius by the board appointing Moyes. Everyone is now moaning about him instead of them :lol:
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
I think in all honesty the majority won't moan at him too much. Surely after tonight his gamble on rekindling Lanzini will have stopped and he will pick Fornals and we might get a couple of players in.Metal Hammer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:50 pm Stroke of genius by the board appointing Moyes. Everyone is now moaning about him instead of them :lol:
What I will say though is, if he doesn't go for it on Saturday, the knives will be out and his remaining matches won't be kind to him.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Many a true word, mate......Metal Hammer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:50 pm Stroke of genius by the board appointing Moyes. Everyone is now moaning about him instead of them :lol:
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
You reasons may well be correct but did they say on the radio that these clubs he'd had interviews with had said no to him or is that an assumption?brothernero wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:34 pm Mentioned this in another thread. the radio claimed the other day that Moyes had been interviewed by 5 Championship clubs, one 1 League 1 club and 3 Premier League clubs since his first stint with us.
Why did they all say no and yet we went begging cap in hand for him.
Out of work, cheap, desperate and a yes man is my reasons we now have him.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
That's simply not true. The great AC Milan team would do exactly that. They would play an attacking 4-4-2 at home and switch it up away from home, often with a 4-5-1. Many teams have a different system for on the road matches.Crouchend_Hammer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:50 pm Why is he pursuing this nonsense of flipping between 5 at the back and 4 at the back during the matches? Does he think he is some kind of tactical genius?
It will be extremely confusing for the players, and no wonder their positioning is a bit all over the place
Decide on your defensive system, and stick with it. I can just about understand you may want to change the system for certain games, but no one else really does that, and no one else does it every 15 minutes!
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
The great Milan team? :lol:. Words that just have no place on here mate...
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
I’m waiting to be told how many games he’s allowed before it’s acceptable to judge him as manager of WHU.brothernero wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:34 pmOut of work, cheap, desperate and a yes man is my reasons we now have him.
Watched a few giving it the big un on here about Moyes during the Bournemouth game - literally during the game while all our team was playing - announcing how the rest of us were mugs and all the reasons we were mugs, and why Moyes was the right man.
Is now enough time to suggest that, regrettably, some of us might actually have had our reservations based on a multitude of elements that sadly now look like they’re coming to fruition?
The squad, the sloppy seconds manager, the budget.
Pitch invasions coming soon.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
If we don’t make at least 2 signings in this transfer window then I won’t even judge him at all. No point. If we persist with a 34 year old RB twice per week along with an ageing Noble and pathetic Lanzini and Haller we just can’t improve...
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
The key word in all that is the one you used to describe that wonderful AC Milan side, a word that could never be used to describe WH 2020. Great sides have better chances of making different systems work.Ironing Board wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:56 pm That's simply not true. The great AC Milan team would do exactly that. They would play an attacking 4-4-2 at home and switch it up away from home, often with a 4-5-1.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Depressed Hammer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:43 pm Pellegrini landed us in this mess but its Moyes fault lol. We have 1 striker. a full back aged 96. The other full back offers very little. 2 players in midfield combined age 65. Yup Moyes fault mate. The team is crap without pace and Anderson is a huge miss. We have 2 players only who can turn games. One is Anderson, other Antonio.
We are not where we are because of Moyes, but What I am saying is he is an out of date manager that no other club wanted and the only reason we have him is just that, he was cheap and desperate. He is not the man to save us and even if we did stay up he wont be the man to push us on and he most certainly will not be the man to get us promoted if we do go down.
Oh and the reason we are in this mess is because of our rubbish and clueless our owners are. Pelle lost all interest when it become clear to him how they had no ambition.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
One interesting point made is that this team's lack of pace would not matter so much in the more technical La Liga. But then, Husillos and Pell seem to have mistaken just how critical physicality is in this league.
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Re: David Moyes - 18th Permanent Manager of WHUFC
Well he never got a job with any and I would be stunned if he said no to any, seeing how the man himself said in an interview how desperate he was got get back into management.
Hardly going to then go and turn down 3 premier league jobs is he.