I actually think we'd be better with a settled three, no matter who is in it. Too much rotation is killing the team.
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As soon as Anderson is back, they'll be no way for Moyes to squeeze Noble into the team.
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Please retire I’ve always respected you but even by your own admission you can’t be relied on take on a coaching role rouse the troops you’ll be more respected from the sideline games are passing you b.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
another awful performance where city went past him as if he wasn't there.
having said that very few of our lot played well under Moyes's strangulation system.
rice soucek fornals surely is the way forward at least they can all get near the ball.
having said that very few of our lot played well under Moyes's strangulation system.
rice soucek fornals surely is the way forward at least they can all get near the ball.
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Alas mate the bloke hasn’t got a scooby what he’s doing.
The only real surprise last night was that he played Snodgrass & the new fella over Lanzini.
He’d have started with 3 LB’s if we had 3!
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I can’t even defend his passing capability’s as city read him like a book
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Couldn't believe they started with him last night
Needed all hands to the pumps, real workers performance and we stick a player who can't run straight in our midfield
We can't even claim to not have the players
Soucek and snograss in midfield with bowen on the wing would have been better
We played with 10 last night
Needed all hands to the pumps, real workers performance and we stick a player who can't run straight in our midfield
We can't even claim to not have the players
Soucek and snograss in midfield with bowen on the wing would have been better
We played with 10 last night
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It was astonishing that Moyes started with him last night, but even more shocking that he forced him to play 90 minutes
when he had a bench full of decent replacements. Yet more evidence (if needed) that Moyes literally hasn't got a clue
what he's doing
when he had a bench full of decent replacements. Yet more evidence (if needed) that Moyes literally hasn't got a clue
what he's doing
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
As an option in a 25 man squad and can start some games and be an option off the bench in others if required, not an issue for me. Having to play him week in week out because of a dearth of options and failure to suitably replace over a period of time, a problem.
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Fornals couldn't even get anywhere near the team, thanks to the coachhammerman11 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 am rice soucek fornals surely is the way forward at least they can all get near the ball.
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If Moyes gets stick from a high majority of our fans for failing to motivate our players, should our captain not also receive the same treatment seeing as this is his 3rd relegation fight under 5 seasons of his captaincy? All under different managers too.
I honestly think he is more part of the problem than even I realised.
I honestly think he is more part of the problem than even I realised.
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Bang on the money.funky chicken wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:39 am If Moyes gets stick from a high majority of our fans for failing to motivate our players, should our captain not also receive the same treatment seeing as this is his 3rd relegation fight under 5 seasons of his captaincy? All under different managers too.
I honestly think he is more part of the problem than even I realised.
How many times has the managers lost the dressing room ..... Noble should be getting them to get behind the manager .. he's a massive part of the problem
Lost all respect for him when he dug out ogbonna after he himself failed to deal with something and oggy had to cover (one our of players of season tbh) that for me was it.
I don't think he could even cut it at championship level anymore
Maybe nobles demise comes hand in hand with 442 being phased out as a formation? More important than ever of the midfield being strong and supporting up front .. maybe I dunno
People say we having to rely on him but we don't at all
If we play 2 CDM with a cam we could have lanzini, Anderson, either of them in the cam with rice, soucek , snograss and fornAls as options for the CDM
So that's 4 players I'd have over him in central midfield
Yet he gets trotted out when he is past it
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Not defending him but singling him out from last night is ridiculous. Apart from Rice auditioning for a big club move nobody we have is anywhere near the level of City.
Setup was crap but it wasn't as if we didn't try to lay a glove on them we just couldn't. We weren't even good enough to foul them when we wanted to. Nobody we have even makes their bench.
Setup was crap but it wasn't as if we didn't try to lay a glove on them we just couldn't. We weren't even good enough to foul them when we wanted to. Nobody we have even makes their bench.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
Not the only One Shocking, I beat the traffic mid way through the second half, had enough! and will give Anfield a miss Saturday in 50 plus years I have spent too many bad days there! Currently anyone can beat us!
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That'll be the one problem with relegation. That'll especially be an excuse for the club to not invest in new central midfielders, as they'll assume Noble will be okay in midfield. At his peak - absolutely he would've been. Last season we played at that level he was brilliant. But I honestly think he would cope to play week in week out at that level now. He should be no more than a squad player now. A great one at that, but no more than that. If we do somehow stay up, I feel more confident we'll at least attempt to upgrade on that position in the team enough for him to not be as much as a regular.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
We can’t expect results with the way we were setup last night. Especially, again looking at a team with lads like Cresswell, Noble, Masuaku, Antonio, and Snodgrass. The same names, the same faces, the same results. I saw last night’s team and knew what the outcome would be. You can’t actually guarantee goals in situations like this.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:27 am Not defending him but singling him out from last night is ridiculous. Apart from Rice auditioning for a big club move nobody we have is anywhere near the level of City.
Setup was crap but it wasn't as if we didn't try to lay a glove on them we just couldn't. We weren't even good enough to foul them when we wanted to. Nobody we have even makes their bench.
But to the point, I often feel Noble’s limitations become very obvious against the big sides. It was like how Hazard just wandered past him in the Chelsea game last year. At his peak, he was not close to De Bruyne’s level, but right now the gulf in class is remarkable. And I can’t imagine too many opposition midfielders fearing many players less, at the moment.