Coronavirus

[War Pony]

V for Vendetta (the film) predicted this would happen. SHOW ME YOUR PAPERZ!!

[DrVenk]

If I heard correctly, Whitty just said that hospitalisations in South Africa from the new variant have increased by 300% in recent days.

Given that press reports last week said SA had seen zero hospitalisations, might it not have been an idea to give some numbers?

Or is the aim just to put the fear of Christ up everyone in the run up to Christmas?

Absolute f*cking bull****.

Good read this.

[RichieRiv]

Good read this.

Echoes what Dr J C has been saying.

[stu1]

How obedient do people think the public is going to be to these news rules and any future ones?

Personally I think large swarths of the public have already had enough.

[Denbighammer]

When does this vaccine passport malarkey come in? Will be required for most football matches apparently.

[Crouchend_Hammer]

Good luck implementing it at West Ham
we will have to start queuing up now for the Norwich game!

[RichieRiv]

Good luck implementing it at West Ham
we will have to start queuing up now for the Norwich game!

I'm in the queue. I will save you a spot.

[Rays Rock]

Unable to work at home,
Have vaccine passport,
Carry round food and drink so mask can be removed without question.
Not a problem!

[r99c]

Plashet Grove Pete was right.

[bubbles1966]

Good read this.

The hospital admission trajectory in the third graph is grim.

[hammers92]

How obedient do people think the public is going to be to these news rules and any future ones?

Personally I think large swarths of the public have already had enough.

The social contract was to get double jabbed and have your freedoms back.

Now it’s a booster, another variant, another scandal that takes us all for fools.

I don’t think many will take a blind bit of notice after the past couple of days imo. A lot of people had it very tough last Christmas, it’s equivalent to spitting in their faces.

[sendô]

If this inept fraud of a PM thinks I'm going to let him ruin yet another Christmas for me he can f*** the f*** off.

More semi lockdown nonsense, more half baked wear a mask here but not here nonsense.

Venues over 10,000 require "vaccine passports". Where's the logic behind that? Vaccines do not stop you catching or spreading anything. Is 9999 people safe but 10,000 dangerous? Don't give me any of that "oh but they had to draw a line somewhere" rubbish.

At what point do we all get on with our lives? I thought we were finally actually ****ing there and yet today I've had to spend all day indoors with a mask on in a training course - but you can take your mask off to drink coffee as much as you want - in a freezing ****ing cold room that had to have the door open because apparently draughts keep us all safe from Covid.

We dont do this nonsense every winter for flu. Are we to do it every bloody year for Covid until forever? We were all told if we got jabbed up we'd all go back to normal, so were they lying, completely ****ing inept or both?

[RichieRiv]

Especially when Bio NTech say that 2 doses provides some protection from serious illness and 3 doses neutralises Omicron.

[DrVenk]

The hospital admission trajectory in the third graph is grim.

And a symptom of low vaccination rates (plus other factors like higher % of immune comprised people).

Ratio of hospitalisations to ICU / Ventilators is key.

We've got a big vaccine buffer they don't have.

[Rays Rock]

We were all told if we got jabbed up we'd all go back to normal, so were they lying, completely ****ing inept or both?

Seems to me they were Lying.
Usually if someone is telling big fat whopping lies, they get ignored.

[Bend it like Repka]

In 2 weeks they'll havecto data to determine whether the human race is to be wiped out or whether omicron is a gift from the gods.

I think this is the answer. If Omicron is bad, and we wait, it will be too late and we will all be back in full lockdown over Xmas.

They should have an idea on whether it is more or less medically dangerous by the two weeks and hopefully we can ease off.

[Bend it like Repka]

We were all told if we got jabbed up we'd all go back to normal, so were they lying, completely ****ing inept or both?

No we were told that the vaccine would cover us for all known variants at that time, but there was always the danger new variants with different mutations might render it useless.

None of this was a secret.

[Rust]

Why aren't the Government promoting Vitamin D, exercise, healthy diets, etc. in briefings like that?

And why don't the journalists ask about collateral damage to businesses, mental health, health check ups and the like?

[bubbles1966]

And a symptom of low vaccination rates (plus other factors like higher % of immune comprised people).

Ratio of hospitalisations to ICU / Ventilators is key.

We've got a big vaccine buffer they don't have.

Some of that I can accept

There are a finite number of beds in each hospital though for people that are considered to be acutely unwell, irrespective of anything to do with the critically ill, ventilators, ICU usage etc. If too many people are turning up, they will run out of beds and run out of people to look after the patients.

Our numbers really aren't bad at the moment but the Germans are running at 70k infections, 5k in intensive care and 500-600 dead a day at the moment, so there have to be questions about the true effectiveness of some of these vaccines. Something does not tie up.

[BMLGirl]

How obedient do people think the public is going to be to these news rules and any future ones?

Personally I think large swarths of the public have already had enough.

Personally think the majority of the public will abide but as always it’s the loud minority dissenters who will get the publicity.