January 2022 Transfer Window

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Maxi Cornet has West Ham target written all over him when Burnley go down.

They've probably got two or three TBF.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Gsbgsb wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:53 pm What are you going to offer for Kelly - £30m plus because that is what Bournemouth might value him at given the money they will receive if they achieve promotion this year and it is far more likely with him than without.

Yes we might want XYZ but their are numerous reasons why the current club might not want to sell in January when they are well placed for the riches of the PL, CL or whatever. It is why Newcastle (who are both desperate and can afford it) are paying so far over the odds for Woods. Let’s be conservative, it is a £20m fee, say a 3-4 year deal on £80k a week. That is risking the better part of £30-35m for a player who, if they stay up, might have no more than 20 starts for them given the return of Wilson and likely further investment in strikers over the summer.

Bereton Diaz is another example, current flavour of the month (this years Toney), Blackburn would price him way up there this month given their position. If they come up he will be tested (anyone seriously suggesting Toney for the sort of fees mentioned last year now). If they do not his price is likely to drop if he presses for the move.
Fair points, but Kelly's consistent selection through the England Age Groups would suggest a pedigree.

Secondly, he only has 18 months left on his contract so Bournemouth's negotiating position may not be so strong. I'm wonder if the Ryan Fraser and Josh King episodes might make Bournemouth more willing to sell before they lose all value, or alternatively prove their willingness to let players run down their contracts.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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HammerAl wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:26 pm One of the biggest disappointments in the league this season, IMO. He wins some headers, makes a few nice touches and scores pens here and there, but other than that I think he’s been way too hyped.
I'm sure I was reading a few weeks ago about how close he was to an England call-up. Must admit, my right eyebrow did position halfway up my forehead at an acute angle.
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steveyrockstar wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:08 pm Why would a Scottish kid move to Bologna, then decide to leave 2 years later when he's still only 19, and doing really well there? Do kids just go abroad for temporary experience?
I think the key at that age, if you want to eventually get to a CL/EL club is to be playing regularly at the highest level possible. Purely anecdotal, but teams on the continent in top divisions sometimes seem to be a bit more open to playing youth than PL sides. While Hickey could have looked for a move to the championship, etc, there has to be something appealing about playing at the highest level in one of the top European leagues, and getting to test yourself against clubs like Juventus and the Milan teams. Sometimes the top level games carry that much more energy from the crowd, that much more pressure, press coverage, etc. Also, for someone with the right mindset, getting out of your comfort zone, leaving the UK, and learning a new style of play can help development.

At the same time, joining a West Ham team that has the likes of Declan, Bowen, Soucek, etc and is in Europe and challenging for Europe, and is about to have a gap at LB isn’t necessarily something you pass up on given the chance
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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So lingard to spurs, digne to villa?
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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bubbles1966 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:36 pm Maxi Cornet has West Ham target written all over him when Burnley go down.

They've probably got two or three TBF.
They haven't any others like him. Just the one cornetto
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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bubbles1966 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:21 pm Brentford have next year's relegation candidates written all over them and we should be looking at picking up three when we play them away.

Ivan Toney must be about £5m-£10m now rather than £30m. Armstrong, last year's Brereton. rarely starts for Southampton.
But why would they sell him now at a knock down price? They would be mad wouldn't they? Not really sensible is it.
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kitthehammer wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm So lingard to spurs, digne to villa?
I am happy with that.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Diogenes wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:47 pm But why would they sell him now at a knock down price? They would be mad wouldn't they? Not really sensible is it.
I'm not suggesting they would, just recognising how inflated the valuation was last season.

It seems to me that the hit-rate of a championship striker stepping up seems to be dropping. There can't be many 20+ a season championship players that are settling well on promotion - perhaps a 1 in 5 success rate, at a wild guess.
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kitthehammer wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:46 pm So lingard to spurs, digne to villa?
Lingard won't move this window.
He's playing West Ham with all the Instagram etc stuff.
He is trying to stay relevant and in people's minds until the summer so he can pick up the biggest contract he can, from anyone who offers it.
JLingz being JLingz. Player.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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There's only been 3 or so players in the last 2-3 years that have made the step up and we have 2 of them, the other being Ollie Warkins.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Turtle knows Jesse Lingard fairly intimately it seems.

He's had his heart broken before.
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Ironing Board wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:00 pm Phil Jones looked pretty good in his last match, despite a bad mistake.
I think you just highlighted the flaw in your argument right there :D
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Scotland would win the World Cup if only left backs played :lol:
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Albie Beck wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:56 pm I think you just highlighted the flaw in your argument right there :D
Not really. He was really impressive considering how long he had been out. A fully fit Phil Jones would be a top player for us. The question is whether he can get back to his best.
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bubbles1966 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:51 pm I'm not suggesting they would, just recognising how inflated the valuation was last season.

It seems to me that the hit-rate of a championship striker stepping up seems to be dropping. There can't be many 20+ a season championship players that are settling well on promotion - perhaps a 1 in 5 success rate, at a wild guess.
Toney still looks good to me.

I am surprised he hasn't scored more but his all round play in general seems very good, he's won them a few games without actually scoring himself.

He'll still cost north of £20m in the summer even if he doesn't pick up much on the scoring front.

Toney or Borja would be great signings in the summer.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Ironing Board wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:00 pm A fully fit Phil Jones would be a top player for us
We'll have to disagree on that one. Personally I never rated him even when he was somehow getting caps.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Newcastle spending £25m to marginally improve them but to massively weaken Burnley (who may struggle to replace Wood given time and their attractiveness).

Relatively - it helps them staying up on two fronts
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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I think Toney would do well here, under Moyes.

I like him.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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bubbles1966 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:51 pm I'm not suggesting they would, just recognising how inflated the valuation was last season.

It seems to me that the hit-rate of a championship striker stepping up seems to be dropping. There can't be many 20+ a season championship players that are settling well on promotion - perhaps a 1 in 5 success rate, at a wild guess.
Perhaps Bubbles, but the proper window to sell/buy is summer once you know the result of failure and are filled with the promise of potential success and the cost thereof.
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