January 2022 Transfer Window

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by DublinDave » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:42 pm

Aztec Hammer wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:27 pm
I'm surprised we haven't brought Hlozek in. Would have thought that would be easy to facilitate and he fits what we need quite well. Perhaps Moyes doesn't rate him, and doesn't think he can play up front for us or make an impact from the wing.

Onuachu is pony.
Sparta are only 3 points behind Slavia in the Czech league & it leaves Kretinski in an uncomfortable position...
He's a Sparta fan & has taken his share of abuse from their supporters, if he let's him go to us now he'll be a pariah in their eyes...
If Hlozek comes it'll be the last day of the window job or more likely the summer, much easier transition if Sparta win the league also....

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Albie Beck » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:48 pm

NWhammer wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:03 pm
There's a good chance that if we don't win this race one of the other teams will steal our engine as well.
Lewis, let it go mate - it's over... :D

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by prophet:marginal » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:48 pm

Ben wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:37 pm
I feel like we should go for 3 solid premier league signings
Ake
Origi
Lingard
I think Moyes would work well with Origi, but that Lingard's remarkable tally of 9 goals is unrepeatable.

The best I can say about Ake is that he isn't Tarkowski!

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by sendô » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:18 pm

I still have an inkling we'll get Lingard, but after the Man Utd game.

If not, then it won't happen in the summer.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by ironilunga » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:32 pm

sendô wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:18 pm
I still have an inkling we'll get Lingard, but after the Man Utd game.
Moyes hopeful of signings in the next two weeks so you might be right 👍

Man Utd selling Lingard to us would IMO be up there with Burnley’s decision to sell Wood to Newcastle.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by steveyrockstar » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:37 pm

ironilunga wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:32 pm
Moyes hopeful of signings in the next two weeks so you might be right 👍

Man Utd selling Lingard to us would IMO be up there with Burnley’s decision to sell Wood to Newcastle.
Newcastle activated a release clause in Wood's contract.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by steveyrockstar » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:38 pm

Ben wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:37 pm
I feel like we should go for 3 solid premier league signings
Ake
Origi
Lingard
Keepin' it simple. I'm with you on that.

(Not that I'm sure they're all available, especially Ake).

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by sendô » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:46 pm

ironilunga wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:32 pm
Moyes hopeful of signings in the next two weeks so you might be right 👍

Man Utd selling Lingard to us would IMO be up there with Burnley’s decision to sell Wood to Newcastle.
Tbf I think people overstate the whole "selling to a rival" thing.

If Man Utd got £15m for him from us and saved on his wages for 6 months they'd see that as a result for a player that they'd likely barely play and would lose for a free anyway.

They'd back themselves to come above us regardless of how impactful they think he might be for us, such is their arrogance. Even allowing for that though, I don't think any club can really ignore that sort of money.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by The Straw » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:02 am

If they're asking for 15m for Lingard this month then it must be a real head-scratcher for Moyes. Get him for free in the summer, or bite the bullet and get him in for what is the most exciting 4 months we've had for decades. It would go against his history of being careful with money but he will also be aware of the glory Lingard could help bring us. Moyes badly wants to win a cup in his career (stating the obvious here) and he might also be aware that keeping this squad together beyond this summer (or the summer after) is minimal. The time has to be now for some quality reinforcements but at the same time he doesn't want to bring in 7/10 players right now when he thinks he can get a few more 9/10's in the summer. But then the opportunities might be gone by then. What does he do? It's such a hard balancing act. My head hurts just thinking about the opportunity cost of it all.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by D C » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:06 am

Man U would be stupid to sell to us right now. They’re going to lose former £90m asset Pogba on a free so whatever they could get for Lingard is chump change to them, they’ll probably just get some nonsense sponsor for the dressing room of their training ground instead and make the same money

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by billtho » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:13 am

Nobody will get Lingard for free in the summer as he will get his current wages plus around ten million pound signing on fee spread over his contract apparently listening to talk sport that's the way free transfers work.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Sticky » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:15 am

He who dares Rodders.

Gotta speculate to accumulate.

Just watched Moyes presser. Love the dour old man act, especially when it's undercut by him laughing and joking with the players in training.

I particularly like how he keeps the players feet on the ground, refusing to go overboard and talking about demanding more from players like Dec and Jaz -

That's how you continue to grow and I bet they love working with him.

Imagine the difference between working with a manager who wants to build a legacy rather than some mercenary import who will be gone inside two years.

Moyes talked about getting the right players in who will 'come on this journey with us' - I trust him implicitly. Whoever he does or doesn't bring in, you can be certain that it's because DM sees it being for the benefit of the club and it's future, not for him or his reputation.

The best signing we could make was done when DM came back.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Doc H Ball » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:15 am

I’d still prefer to stick with a returning Zouma, Dawson and Diop at CH, a returning Cresswell, Coufal and Johnson at FB, Lanzini reborn at 10, Fornals and Benni competing and Antonio and Bowen up front.

We need nobody and, if anything, someone else disrupts the harmony. These players have got us to 4th and, with others, have made us hopeful of a cup run. They deserve to see it out and make or break.

Moyes’ reluctance to sign anyone is a great plus.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Southminster Hammer » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:20 am

Doc H Ball wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:15 am
I’d still prefer to stick with a returning Zouma, Dawson and Diop at CH, a returning Cresswell, Coufal and Johnson at FB, Lanzini reborn at 10, Fornals and Benni competing and Antonio and Bowen up front.

We need nobody and, if anything, someone else disrupts the harmony. These players have got us to 4th and, with others, have made us hopeful of a cup run. They deserve to see it out and make or break.

Moyes’ reluctance to sign anyone is a great plus.
Ashby at right back, and I really think Johnson would make an excellent centre back, though maybe his height would be a problem...

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Southminster Hammer » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:21 am

As covering positions of course ^

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by D C » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:22 am

billtho wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:13 am
Nobody will get Lingard for free in the summer as he will get his current wages plus around ten million pound signing on fee spread over his contract apparently listening to talk sport that's the way free transfers work.
Very true but him being so close to the end of his contract will surely mean he’d want a big signing on fee on top of a transfer fee to Man utd. He’d actually be mad to move anywhere this month. Not even an international tourney to push for this summer

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Bubbles Fortuna » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:23 am

D C wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:22 am
Very true but him being so close to the end of his contract will surely mean he’d want a big signing on fee on top of a transfer fee to Man utd. He’d actually be mad to move anywhere this month. Not even an international tourney to push for this summer
It is only a couple of months into next season. I can't imagine anyone is getting into the world cup squad on the strength of their form at the start of a season.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by Burnley Hammer » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:32 am

I'd like a defender that's decent in the air. Someone trustworthy and solid. I don't think Ake is that man. I'd much rather go for Caleta Car if we're after a left sided centre back.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by billtho » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:34 am

As it looks like Fabianski will be getting another year contract I can't see Areola signing for us to play the odd game here and there so perhaps another keeper might have to be in the mix.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

Post by The Straw » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:41 am

billtho wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:13 am
Nobody will get Lingard for free in the summer as he will get his current wages plus around ten million pound signing on fee spread over his contract apparently listening to talk sport that's the way free transfers work.
billtho, fair point and fully understand how the economics work :newthumb: But it's a broad picture to paint, just like how people speak of 'net spend' without taking into account all the other economic factors involved and boring stuff like book value. I don't listen to Talksport but have heard it's a basic wind-up/call-in format. Amazed that people still do this when there are so many quality podcasts and editorials around if you look for them.

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