How dare you speak such dirty things about dawson?Peaches wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:16 pm Szalai is a very Moyes signing. €20M is a very fair price. It’s much better value for a better LCB than pretty much any one else we’ve been linked with. To put things in perspective he’s 24 this week, and would improve us more than Digne at £10M less on less than half the wages. That should leave more than enough for a striker. Szalai or Caleta-Carr are massive upgrades on Diop and with all due respect Dawson, and even a an upgrade on Ogbonna.
January 2022 Transfer Window
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Going by your logic about not signing players because of the league they play in we would not have signed Soucek or Coufal.Hamburger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:25 am So we are looking at the Turkish league to find a 'right player', seriously? Remember hot prospect Golkan Tore?
I'm somewhat bemused about the confidence behind Moyes 'right player' policy. Didn't work in the summer and so far it's not working now, potentially to the detriment of the club and players. Selling Haller in January and not August defies logic too, not to mention Hugill. A good manager, no doubt, but his 50% transfer success rate and dithering doesn't inspire imo.
Why did his policy not work in the summer? He wasn't able to find all the players he wanted with the right quality, attitude or at the right price to improve us in some areas so he didn't go for inferior alternatives.
He has a far greater than 50% success rate which for a club like us is huge considering that the prices we shop at mean most players are a gamble. Thankfully we have a manager that calculates and makes that gamble as low risk as possible so we don't have our head in our hands watching some of the absolute ***** we have over the years, only to find them on the bench, on loan and draining resources.
As for the sale of Haller. Have you considered that nobody made any offers for him in August? Moyes is quoted as saying: "I think that the Seb Haller situation was simply that we got an offer, we didn't expect it, we weren't planning to lose Seb this window." It amazes me just how many people know the inner going ons at the club
Some people seem determined to sign players even if they add little or no value. I'd much rather keep a good squad dynamic and incentivise our young players.
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Interestingly, Kim, Fenerbahce’s other cb (Korean intl) is really highly rated as well and linked with Napoli (although he just arrived in Turkey in the summer). He would be good as well, although he isn’t left footed and doesn’t offer the ability to play CB, LCB (in a 3) or LB like Szalai does
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Szalai's agent is the german Roger Wittmann. Someone, who tries to fabricate a lot of stories around the players to get them in the shopping window. He's also the agent of Josh King, someone we've been linked to numerous times in the past, while Moyes later denied any sort of interest and has said, that he never was part of their thinking.
I would therefor take and because a lot of German clubs refuse to work with Roger Wittmann and his agency ROGON (really strange tie up between his Agency and Hoffenheim btw :arry: ), every rumour on players from his agency with a pinch of salt.
Nevertheless, Szalai looked like a real Moyes-type of player during the EUROs, I have to agree.
I would therefor take and because a lot of German clubs refuse to work with Roger Wittmann and his agency ROGON (really strange tie up between his Agency and Hoffenheim btw :arry: ), every rumour on players from his agency with a pinch of salt.
Nevertheless, Szalai looked like a real Moyes-type of player during the EUROs, I have to agree.
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Just thinking Ogbonna was left footed but he never played left back for us even in an emergency as far as I can remember? I understand it’s great to have a left / right footed CB pairing but I don’t remember seeing our CBS ever as left backs or right backs… not since Winston Reid and Ian Pearce. There’s always been a Cresswell or a long line of dodgy right backs.
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I really liked the look of Szalai when I’ve seen him play. My only concerns are whether he’d adapt to the Premier League. And whether he can play in a back 4. As admittedly the only time I’ve seen him play was for Hungary in a back 5.
I am just not sure if this is the type of gamble we should be making half way though the season. IMO we need someone who can come in now and play straightaway. I think he would benefit more being signed in the summer and having a pre-season with his new teammates. It’s not to say he couldn’t hit the ground running straightaway. Soucek did when he joined. But it’s a gamble.
I have a feeling Moyes knows which centre half he wants until the end of the season and he’s just waiting for their parent club to sort something out, or for the ACON to be almost over. I think it’ll either be Hause or Diallo. Villa are suppose to be looking for another centre half, I believe. And Diallo is away at the ACON.
I am just not sure if this is the type of gamble we should be making half way though the season. IMO we need someone who can come in now and play straightaway. I think he would benefit more being signed in the summer and having a pre-season with his new teammates. It’s not to say he couldn’t hit the ground running straightaway. Soucek did when he joined. But it’s a gamble.
I have a feeling Moyes knows which centre half he wants until the end of the season and he’s just waiting for their parent club to sort something out, or for the ACON to be almost over. I think it’ll either be Hause or Diallo. Villa are suppose to be looking for another centre half, I believe. And Diallo is away at the ACON.
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It’s amazing how many of the players we are being linked to moved for under £10m in the last 18 months or so. I guess if we know of them as fans everyone would know them, but I do hope we start picking a few if them up earlier. If I had more time I’d do a team we could have bought for under £100m since Moyes took over. Not a sight on him, but to show what’s possible (retrospectively admittedly).
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I think the same. Unless Dawson requires a surgery because of his current smaller'ish injury, he's going to partner Zouma again and the player coming in will be the first backup to them and/or Cresswell.funky chicken wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:55 am I really liked the look of Szalai when I’ve seen him play. My only concerns are whether he’d adapt to the Premier League. And whether he can play in a back 4. As admittedly the only time I’ve seen him play was for Hungary in a back 5.
I am just not sure if this is the type of gamble we should be making half way though the season. IMO we need someone who can come in now and play straightaway. I think he would benefit more being signed in the summer and having a pre-season with his new teammates. It’s not to say he couldn’t hit the ground running straightaway. Soucek did when he joined. But it’s a gamble.
I have a feeling Moyes knows which centre half he wants until the end of the season and he’s just waiting for their parent club to sort something out, or for the ACON to be almost over. I think it’ll either be Hause or Diallo. Villa are suppose to be looking for another centre half, I believe. And Diallo is away at the ACON.
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need to get on with it now. man utd on saturday so I guess we will find out if lingard is coming or not after that. wouldnt be surprised to see him start against us !
LB CB CF still needed !!!
LB CB CF still needed !!!
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It's either true or it's Szalai.DusseldorfHammer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 am Szalai's agent is the german Roger Wittmann. Someone, who tries to fabricate a lot of stories around the players to get them in the shopping window. He's also the agent of Josh King, someone we've been linked to numerous times in the past, while Moyes later denied any sort of interest and has said, that he never was part of their thinking.
I would therefor take and because a lot of German clubs refuse to work with Roger Wittmann and his agency ROGON (really strange tie up between his Agency and Hoffenheim btw :arry: ), every rumour on players from his agency with a pinch of salt.
Nevertheless, Szalai looked like a real Moyes-type of player during the EUROs, I have to agree.
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I am doubtful we will sign anyone the board have history of letting us down and not putting their hands in their pockets when we're close to getting into the top 4 id love to be proven wrong but this lot have form on their side for that
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The signing of Lingard last January proved to be one that helped us regain our momentum and push on for a European spot. We're starting to falter slightly so I'm praying for a repeat, whether it be Lingard or someone new!
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I think the Hungarian guy is agent talk, trying to flog him.
My guess is it'll be a loan for a defender until Tarkowksi is a free agent, and only Lingard if possible, hopefully, until a striker is available in the summer.
My guess is it'll be a loan for a defender until Tarkowksi is a free agent, and only Lingard if possible, hopefully, until a striker is available in the summer.
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The one positive of Diop’s cratering form is it makes it very, very funny that Sullivan ran straight to his client journalists and loudly and categorically claimed he forced the signing through over the objections of others back when he was looking promising.
A companion piece to his pinning Arnautovic solely on Bilic during his early struggles before he became one of the best forwards in the league for a couple of years. Lovely stuff.
A companion piece to his pinning Arnautovic solely on Bilic during his early struggles before he became one of the best forwards in the league for a couple of years. Lovely stuff.
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Thompkins, Georgee?Georgee Paris wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:33 am Just thinking Ogbonna was left footed but he never played left back for us even in an emergency as far as I can remember? I understand it’s great to have a left / right footed CB pairing but I don’t remember seeing our CBS ever as left backs or right backs… not since Winston Reid and Ian Pearce. There’s always been a Cresswell or a long line of dodgy right backs.
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Er... his policy seems to be working just fine. We are 4th. 50% transfer success rate? I can only think of Hughill as a proven failure. I share your frustration but your evidence is suspect.Hamburger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:25 am So we are looking at the Turkish league to find a 'right player', seriously? Remember hot prospect Golkan Tore?
I'm somewhat bemused about the confidence behind Moyes 'right player' policy. Didn't work in the summer and so far it's not working now, potentially to the detriment of the club and players. Selling Haller in January and not August defies logic too, not to mention Hugill. A good manager, no doubt, but his 50% transfer success rate and dithering doesn't inspire imo.