January 2022 Transfer Window

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Gsbgsb wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:25 pm Such a Sullivan approach, cannot get the first choice, 2nd choice etc but the 15th choice is the first available so sign him no matter what the long term damage at least we have signed someone.
I feel some people look for confirmation bias regarding Sullivan. No signings, must be Sullivans fault.
How many times has Moyes stated he likes a s mall squad?
How many times has Moyes stated he is waiting for the right player?
How many times has Moyes stated he is no near to signing a player during this transfer window?

This transfer window is a test for Moyes, Newman and Kretinsky. Currently they are very, very disappointing.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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El brooko79 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:25 pm 6 months and Blackburn have the option of another year
I think that makes a deal pretty easy then doesn't it? Take the money now or gamble on getting over the line in May. Personally, they're not coming up (Fulham and Bournemouth will easily take the top two spots) so it's the lottery of the play offs.

This one makes sense for both clubs imo.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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NWhammer wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:19 pm Can we afford to get another striker signing wrong?

I think that is why we haven't got one in.
Scared of making a wrong signing so make no signing. I don't think that is progression.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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So there is no “must sell” incentive. Trigger the extension and they still have him in the summer as an “asset”.

Thing is promotion is worth far more to Blackburn than any “premium” a club is likely to pay now to sign him. Similar with European clubs looking for CL etc. People would be livid if we sold Bowen or Rice this window at a “premium”, the fall out would be huge unless they demanded to move (such as Carlos at Sevilla). Why do people expect other clubs to be different?
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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hammers92 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:31 pm I think that makes a deal pretty easy then doesn't it? Take the money now or gamble on getting over the line in May. Personally, they're not coming up (Fulham and Bournemouth will easily take the top two spots) so it's the lottery of the play offs.

This one makes sense for both clubs imo.
Why not wait to see if you win the play-offs and if not sell?

It makes zero sense for Blackburn, unless they are completely devoid of any ambition to ever get back in the prem which seems unlikely.

Using the same logic we might as well sell Rice this window, as it's unlikely we'll get top 4 so why even bother.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Turtlecharityracer wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:32 pm Scared of making a wrong signing so make no signing. I don't think that is progression.
I make you right about that. That does seem to be what is happening here
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Turtlecharityracer wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:29 pm I feel some people look for confirmation bias regarding Sullivan. No signings, must be Sullivans fault.
How many times has Moyes stated he likes a s mall squad?
How many times has Moyes stated he is waiting for the right player?
How many times has Moyes stated he is no near to signing a player during this transfer window?

This transfer window is a test for Moyes, Newman and Kretinsky. Currently they are very, very disappointing.
Not for me if they are adopting the right player above the “anybody” approach which seemed to epitomise the time when Sullivan was in control. I accept however you might prefer and support that approach.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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stu1 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:34 pm Why not wait to see if you win the play-offs and if not sell?

It makes zero sense for Blackburn, unless they are completely devoid of any ambition to ever get back in the prem which seems unlikely.

Using the same logic we might as well sell Rice this window, as it's unlikely we'll get top 4 so why even bother.
The way I read it, was that he's out of contract this summer. Might have got that wrong though.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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stu1 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:34 pm Why not wait to see if you win the play-offs and if not sell?

It makes zero sense for Blackburn, unless they are completely devoid of any ambition to ever get back in the prem which seems unlikely.

Using the same logic we might as well sell Rice this window, as it's unlikely we'll get top 4 so why even bother.
Weren't Hull in a relegation battle when we signed Bowen?

Should they have not kept him to see if they could stay up?

Sometimes money does talk, especially to football league clubs, who struggle to stay afloat.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Puff Daddy wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:34 pm I make you right about that. That does seem to be what is happening here
really ? you honestly, seriously believe we are scared to make a signing in case its wrong. You actually do think thats the case?
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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hammers92 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:31 pm I think that makes a deal pretty easy then doesn't it? Take the money now or gamble on getting over the line in May. Personally, they're not coming up (Fulham and Bournemouth will easily take the top two spots) so it's the lottery of the play offs.

This one makes sense for both clubs imo.
It's their best chance of getting in the prem for years.
£100m plus.

Why wouldn't you go for it?
They can sell him for £20m in the summer.
Why risk £100m for an extra £5 or £8m
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Has anyone seen the Suarez to Villa rumours? They really are trying to recreate and mirror Everton aren't they?
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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hammers92 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:41 pm Has anyone seen the Suarez to Villa rumours? They really are trying to recreate and mirror Everton aren't they?
They are minted but interested to see if FFP will catch up with them in terms of salaries
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Interesting when you look and compare stats with Brereton and Harry Kane.

Both kind of mediocre for the first few years then at the age of about 21 it started to click.

Brereton does look to have great technique and it seems inevitable that he will end up making the move to the Premier.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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S-H wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:40 pm Weren't Hull in a relegation battle when we signed Bowen?

Should they have not kept him to see if they could stay up?

Sometimes money does talk, especially to football league clubs, who struggle to stay afloat.
So you are comparing the financial consequences of relegation from the Championship to League 1 to promotion from the Championship to the PL. Hull likely saw the sale of Bowen as covering the cost of the former how much do you propose paying to equate to the latter?
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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S-H wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:24 pm What's his contract situation like?
Ends this summer but rovers have an option of a further year. I'd like to think the speculation is being drummed up by rovers as this is probably the window where they'll get the most money from him.

20m+ for Blackburn a year after selling Armstrong would be good business for them. Venky's (owners) don't invest heavily in transfers but Tony Mowbray has recruited really well with the money he's been given. Maybe Venky's and Mowbray believe getting big money for Brereton can be the catalyst to get them up if a replacement plus one or two more can be found.

As for he's been good for a few seasons, this is his first where he's hit double figuires.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Gsbgsb wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:37 pm Not for me if they are adopting the right player above the “anybody” approach which seemed to epitomise the time when Sullivan was in control. I accept however you might prefer and support that approach.
Sold Haller over a year ago and Moyes said he had the budget for a striker. Still no signing after scouting for a year.
We really are taking in depth scouting to the next level!
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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Gsbgsb wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:44 pm So you are comparing the financial consequences of relegation from the Championship to League 1 to promotion from the Championship to the PL. Hull likely saw the sale of Bowen as covering the cost of the former how much do you propose paying to equate to the latter?
There's no harm in asking the question. If we've got a £20m budget (or whatever it is), let's see if they're for turning.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Window

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To be fair to Brereton, he seems to have settled in OK at international level and scored 3 in 9 for Chile. Think he might have an assist or two too.
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