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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
I heard that there are a lot of criminal oligarchs from Russia hiding in London.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Good one.
That doesn’t answer the question.
I’m not sure why I’m bothering to try and debate with someone that themselves is unwilling or unable to debate in good faith or follow a sequential argument. Such traits are obviously core for anyone trying to stand up for actions of the Russian state, because any attempt to do so by discussing it properly would crumble in the face of the facts.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Maybe I don't understand the question. Sorry.EvilC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:04 pm Good one.
That doesn’t answer the question.
I’m not sure why I’m bothering to try and debate with someone that themselves is unwilling or unable to debate in good faith or follow a sequential argument. Such traits are obviously core for anyone trying to stand up for actions of the Russian state, because any attempt to do so by discussing it properly would crumble in the face of the facts.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Of course. But that doesn’t mean your source is superior or more trustworthy.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Why The Ukraine Crisis Is The West's Fault - by US Professor , John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago .
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
I’m sure I speak for many when I say that I am not watching 70 minutes of this, however he was absolutely right when he said that Ukraine should never have given up their nukes.The Old Man of Storr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:20 pm Why The Ukraine Crisis Is The West's Fault - by US Professor , John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago .
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
How about some simpler ones then:
1) Do you believe that Putin would get 77% of the vote in a truly free presidential election?
2) Do you agree it's correct that the constitution has been rewritten to allow him to serve for 2 more terms?
3) Do you think the treatment of Alexei Navalny is justified, or an attempt to silence him?
4) Do you accept that Russia used nerve agent in the UK and killed our citizens illegally?
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Five banks. Three oligarchs.
That will send shockwaves through the Kremlin alright.
That will send shockwaves through the Kremlin alright.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
1) Maybe. Putin did not have worthy participants.Bend it like Repka wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:31 pm How about some simpler ones then:
1) Do you believe that Putin would get 77% of the vote in a truly free presidential election?
2) Do you agree it's correct that the constitution has been rewritten to allow him to serve for 2 more terms?
3) Do you think the treatment of Alexei Navalny is justified, or an attempt to silence him?
4) Do you accept that Russia used nerve agent in the UK and killed our citizens illegally?
2) Changing the constitution is Putin's deal with the liberals. 2 terms of Putin is not a problem. There are problems created by Sulivanov, Chubais and others.
I voted against changing the constitution.
3) I am neutral about Navalny, because he did nothing and did not offer to do anything for ordinary people. He called pointless rallies with schoolchildren.
Russians are also to blame for corruption. Because of the bureaucracy, it's easier for us to pay. This is a bad feature of the Russian mentality.
The video about Putin's house is funny. He officially can choose where to live and what kind of house to build.
4) Perhaps Skripal knew something. These are spy games. Britain's intelligence of the breaches is working, since it could not prevent it.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
This isn't a response, this is trolling, but nonetheless since we're playing that game, here is a map of the Grand Duchy of Muscovy that existed before the Russian Empire. It's significantly smaller than the current Russian Federation.omch@ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:42 pm Putin is not an angel, but... People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
https://ru.scribd.com/book/353182420/Al ... t-Round-To
Britain has given independence to all of it's former Empire save the bits that want to remain tied to the UK. I'd say Russia should be doing the same thing. You know, because people who live in glass houses should not throw stones and all that.
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Funny you put that. Tends to be a habit in dictatorships that the leader doesn't have any worthy opponents in an election.
You might also note point 3 at this point and where that person is currently located.
Also point 4, you haven't denied Russia carried out an attack on UK soil. At least you haven't tried to tell is those men were studying our Cathedrals.
Do you have any other items you can educate us on from a Russian point of view?
Is it embarrassing that so many.of your athletes cheat via doping, and your country even manipulates 15 year old children?
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
If nothing else, can we kick Chelsea out of the PL (& the EFL) & take away all of their trophies of the last 20 years?
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
Doping is accepted by all athletes. Everyone on the Norwegian team has asthma. China did not allow a shipment of asthma drugs for Norwegian athletes to pass. And how did Klebo perform?Bend it like Repka wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:16 pm Funny you put that. Tends to be a habit in dictatorships that the leader doesn't have any worthy opponents in an election.
You might also note point 3 at this point and where that person is currently located.
Also point 4, you haven't denied Russia carried out an attack on UK soil. At least you haven't tried to tell is those men were studying our Cathedrals.
Do you have any other items you can educate us on from a Russian point of view?
Is it embarrassing that so many.of your athletes cheat via doping, and your country even manipulates 15 year old children?
Those who allowed this are to blame and should be punished! RUSADA is subordinate to WADA (Putin is not famous here) A lot of negativity has poured out on Valieva. I don't think she deserved it.
I have a lot of questions about doping.
Why did they open this particular doping test? The doping test before the Olympics was clean.
Why did the media get information earlier than the IOC?
Why did WADA allow Simone Bales to take methylphenidate and amphetamines as an exception?
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Re: Russian troop build up on Ukraine border.
I recall a lot of coverage and reaction. The same in 2008 when the crisis was in Georgia.