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Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by Haarlemammer » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:32 am

So, the big draw is today (in my time zone)
By merit of our ranking, we avoid the big guns, but there are many dangerous sides outside the seeded teams.
If Wales qualify, they will be in pot D but inside the top 20 ranked teams.
With no group having more than 2 UEFA teams, I think that makes the odds of Wales (or Scotland) being drawn against Brazil, Argentina or Qatar slightly higher.

So, what predictions do we have? Normally someone predicts that France will get the easy group…
Who would you want in England’s group and who would you want to avoid?
For me, I’d hope for Croatia, Tunisia & Ecuador.
I’d hope to avoid Germany & Senegal but would not be too concerned about any of the pot D sides (except Wales)

(We only seem to have a Euro 2021 board and not a WC 2022 one to date)

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Post by il_martello_di_genovesi » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:13 pm

Funny groups so far.
England, USA, Iran looks more political than a World Cup group.

Brazil, Switzerland, Serbia is an exact same group so far as the one in 2018. Costa Rica would make it an exact…

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Re: Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by last.caress » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:19 pm

England
Iran
USA
Scotland/Ukraine/Wales

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Post by Macca1973 » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:21 pm

Not gonna lie, I think Jenas is an absolute tit but credit where it’s due, he’s done a nice job of that draw :clap:

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Post by Up the Junction » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:29 pm

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Re: Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by Morocco Mole » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:32 pm

Hope we get Ukraine. f*** the sweaties/taffs. Carlsberg draw. :fxd:

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Post by Shabu » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:52 pm

Need to buy a Mexican top for the game against Argentina :grin:

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Post by BigFatSam » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:12 pm

People are scared to say it due to weirdos jumping down their throats for being arrogant but what a group that is. Possibly wouldn’t have handpicked a better draw than that.

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Re: Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by S-H » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:04 pm

Piece of piss!

I'm sure we'll find a way to balls it up though.

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Post by Thekorean » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:45 pm

Looks like we need to channel 1776 and send England home again.

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Re: Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by Haarlemammer » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:04 am

S-H wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:04 pm
Piece of piss!
Looks like I will need to play devil’s advocate on this. :twisted:
If we look at all the groups in terms of FIFA rankings and assume that those places still to be decided will go to the highest ranked team (hopefully not too contentious a premise, then England’s group is the hardest in pretty much every objective metric.
Average FIFA ranking of all 4 teams: 15. The lowest number (hence the highest ranking). group H is 28 by comparison
Ranking of the worst team in the group: 21. Closest is group E with 31
Rank of 3rd place team (assumes you have to finish above 3rd and 4th ranked to progress): 18. The highest ranking of all the 3rd best teams

I appreciate that the Fifa world rankings are not perfect, but it feels like many are dismissing teams outside of UEFA & Brazil/Argentina as being foregone conclusion results. A dangerous assumption.

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Re: Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by il_martello_di_genovesi » Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:49 pm

Haarlemammer wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:04 am
I appreciate that the Fifa world rankings are not perfect, but it feels like many are dismissing teams outside of UEFA & Brazil/Argentina as being foregone conclusion results. A dangerous assumption.
USA are ranked 15, Canada 38. Canada are a better team than the USA IMO.

I don't think anyone is dismissive, it's the World Cup. People can however look at the pots and be pleased with what England got. Look at pot 2. Germany, Denmark, Uruguay. USA are not even close to that. Every pot 1 team would've wanted USA. Pot 3, you'd want to avoid Serbia, Poland and Senegal the most I would say. That's not to say Iran are bad, but most would probably welcome them over the other 3. So basically England got the best pot 2 team possible and avoided the main ones from pot 3.

The rankings are what they are. Swap Iran for Serbia (Yes, that would've meant the UEFA Playoff couldn't have come from pot 4), but that would make it a harder group, yet the average FIFA ranking would decrease.

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Re: Qatar WC 2022 Draw - Groups

Post by vietnammer » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:54 am

Let's seek advice from the Jocks on how to handle Iran. Or let's not. They beat USA too.

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