The Johnson Government 2019-2022

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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:39 am It's impossible to really know without knowing he er circumstances. If she has been in the police 20 + years it is possibly safe to assume her kid doesn't need a child minder by now.

It's too easy to just say adjust your spending but 27k take home is more than the average salary before tax. Her pension is one most people can only dream about.

I think a big part of the adjustment people are having to make is we have been manipulated over the last couple of decades to be an indebted society. Borrow and spend it will all be fine. Saving is pointless just keep fuelling the consumer machine. Low interest, cheap stuff, relatively low bills.
"She told Nick Ferrari on LBC today that her £2,300 a month salary does not stretch very far after paying her mortgage, £800, car insurance, food shopping, petrol and child's school bus far. "

Before cost of living increase to petrol , food, energy I can imagine she didn't struggle

That's the key

We can use buzz words like quick credit and must haves but that doesn't sound unreasonable maths

£800 mortgage leaving £1500 , council tax will come out , then the insurance , food, petrol .. I can't imagine much change once then new energy bills hit

Before that with petrol say £20 a week less .. and energy £10 a week less and food least £10 a week less that's a fair amount left ...
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -malthouse

Unbelievable that this is the point we're at. The police being more understanding of the desperate situation people are in that politicians.

As always, if you see someone stealing essentials like food, nappies or baby food....no you didn't.
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:39 am I think a big part of the adjustment people are having to make is we have been manipulated over the last couple of decades to be an indebted society. Borrow and spend it will all be fine. Saving is pointless just keep fuelling the consumer machine. Low interest, cheap stuff, relatively low bills.
Isn't that just the Keynesian economic model generally? Given the rates of inflation, saving isn't the most sensible thing, keep spending, keep the wheel moving. The system needs it. Capital accumulation and saving has not really been encouraged in my lifetime.

People tend not to give themselves much of a buffer and scale their spending up relative to their income. As this woman proves, it isn't only people right at the bottom feeling the pinch.
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fjthegrey wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:49 am Isn't that just the Keynesian economic model generally? Given the rates of inflation, saving isn't the most sensible thing, keep spending, keep the wheel moving. The system needs it. Capital accumulation and saving has not really been encouraged in my lifetime.

People tend not to give themselves much of a buffer and scale their spending up relative to their income. As this woman proves, it isn't only people right at the bottom feeling the pinch.
I thought the idea of raising interest rates was to discourage people from doing just that. Spend less because you don't have it to curb inflation

Reason it's not going down is because it's on things we can't do without!
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Sue Gray is firing up her printers...126 FPN issued, some people have received more than one.

Doesn't include the famous "socially distanced drinks" in the garden.

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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:43 am Before that with petrol say £20 a week less .. and energy £10 a week less and food least £10 a week less that's a fair amount left ...
This is kind of what I'm getting at. Someone on 40k is screwed finding £40 a week. People have been living at their limit while stuff was cheap.
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:51 am I thought the idea of raising interest rates was to discourage people from doing just that. Spend less because you don't have it to curb inflation

Reason it's not going down is because it's on things we can't do without!
We're also post Covid. There's life to be lived and fun to be had.

I save, but I certainly sympathize with people who choose not to.
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:46 am https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -malthouse

Unbelievable that this is the point we're at. The police being more understanding of the desperate situation people are in that politicians.

As always, if you see someone stealing essentials like food, nappies or baby food....no you didn't.
Someone should steal his food the fat Tory ****
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We are over due a big housing market crash


There where was a report a while ago that I can't sem to find now but it went into detail how even those who used to seen as comfortable in terms of household income are now starting to feel it.
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 11:08 am This is kind of what I'm getting at. Someone on 40k is screwed finding £40 a week. People have been living at their limit while stuff was cheap.
Apologies for misreading

You are correct

It's the gas for me that's the kicker

My wife and I have a shower each a day and the kids share a bath

Now our boiler is 3 years old, up to date system etc

It's gone from £15 a month (after the increase from 2.6p to 4p a unit) now I'm looking at £50 a month for the same usage .

I overpay to have winter in the bank

The solar is saving me electric but it will just be used to pay for the gas to be fair
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Prob wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 11:24 am We are over due a big housing market crash
Supposedly, but they tend not to happen while interest rates are low, which they are, and unemployment is low, which it is.

I've had people telling me it's due for the last 5 years.
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So looks like just the one fine for Boris (which I imagine is what would happen to anyone else in the same situation)

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No more fines for Boris and Carrie despite being at 5 of the gatherings including the one blaring Abba out. One member of staff copped 5 fines.

He's proper dodged a bullet there.
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126 middle fingers flipped at us by Johnson and his flunkeys. The only PM to turn Downing Street into a crime hot-spot.
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He might not received anymore fines but everyone knows he is guilty of more.
The man has no shame and he will bluff out the Sue Gray report,the longer he stays the more damage he does for the country and his party.
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Oldun wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 3:49 pm He might not received anymore fines but everyone knows he is guilty of more.
The man has no shame and he will bluff out the Sue Gray report,the longer he stays the more damage he does for the country and his party.
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Keep this story in mind next time the government try to claim that by stopping people from being deported without a fair process Labour and "woke lefty" lawyers are somehow on the side of murderers and rapists.

They don't give a **** about and of us.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61508520
An MI5 spy used his status to terrorise his partner before moving abroad to continue intelligence work while under investigation, the BBC has found.

A video shows the man threatening to kill the woman and attacking her with a machete.

The foreign national cannot be named, despite evidence he is a threat to women, after the government took the BBC to court to block publication.

Evidence shows that he is a right-wing extremist with a violent past.

In an unprecedented legal battle, the corporation argued that women had a right to know his identity and it would protect potential victims from harm.

But the BBC successfully resisted the government's attempt to stop publication of the wide-ranging investigation.
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 6:19 pm Keep this story in mind next time the government try to claim that by stopping people from being deported without a fair process Labour and "woke lefty" lawyers are somehow on the side of murderers and rapists.

They don't give a **** about and of us.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61508520
It’s probably quite tough due to the identity of this maniac being more sensitive to operations or a complete embarrassment to the MI5 than to allow a straight forward trial.
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fjthegrey wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 11:09 am We're also post Covid. There's life to be lived and fun to be had.

I save, but I certainly sympathize with people who choose not to.
What about those who dont have any left over to save?
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 6:56 pm What about those who dont have any left over to save?
I’m sure we’ll survive somehow.
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