The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

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Misko, the stage is yours.

Who do you think could make it in the Premier from the french league? Mbappe, Neymar, Messi et al excluded of course.
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funky chicken wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 2:36 pm He probably should’ve buried that chance in the 2nd half especially. But he certainly looked like he caused Man City problems.

He assisted their 2nd goal and look at the part he played for Cash’s goal when he pulled 2 of their defenders out of of the centre.
I have no doubt in his ability in his ability to cause problems.

Its his ability to finish very simple chances that worries me.
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Ironing Board wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:33 pm Playing LB Hickey as a right wing back :lol:
Inverted fullbacks, IB - they're the future of football.
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D C wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:23 pm Why advocate for squad players to come in just to be squad players?
I think having a bad bench Yesterday has got some focused on adding average players to make that stronger. We’ve just finished 7th and back into Europe. Dennis and Brownhill is what I would expect to be talked about had we just been promoted.
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Telegraph reporting Everton trying to beat Villa to Tarkowski. "Everton have jumped to the front of the queue"
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There's a bit of squad player need, though - it's the lack of squad players in, say, central midfield that mean Rice and Soucek have had to play 50 games this season.
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-DL- wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 2:20 pm Although this post from Bubbles I've quoted is in another thread, I feel my reply to it is more appropriate here.

I said on EUMB yesterday early evening something I will repeat - and stand by - on here. Aside from Bowen, maybe Zouma, and Rice (with there being a caveat on Rice), there is not one other player in our squad that I wouldn't entertain sensible bids for.

The caveat on Rice would be, if we were offered the £150 million that's oft quoted, I'd bite your arm off and chuck it in the kitty along with this other supposed £150 million - which also as I said yesterday, I think is total b*llocks anyway.

If we can't construct a squad with that sort of dough minus a Declan Rice of course, then we'd clearly be doing something wrong.
Agree with this, we need to be proactive. If there’s better players to be had in positions, we should pursue them.
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YorksHammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:41 pm Inverted fullbacks, IB - they're the future of football.
He plays either side, one of those unusual 2 footed footballers!
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YorksHammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:46 pm There's a bit of squad player need, though - it's the lack of squad players in, say, central midfield that mean Rice and Soucek have had to play 50 games this season.
We need someone that can force Soucek to be the squad/bench player. Not a pure backup that only plays because we need Rice and Soucek to have a breather.

I really hope Moyes understands this, and does not just pad out the squad with players of insufficient quality, just because they are an actual footballer unlike Alex Kral.
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Marky wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:35 pm Misko, do you rate denayer? Do you expect him to come to the prem?
He's garbage.
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il_martello_di_genovesi wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:42 pm I think having a bad bench Yesterday has got some focused on adding average players to make that stronger. We’ve just finished 7th and back into Europe. Dennis and Brownhill is what I would expect to be talked about had we just been promoted.
Problem is the next level up won't necessarily be happy with a squad role. We just aren't there yet.

That's why I (generally) favour the option of buying a first team player and the current person in the role becomes the sub. Antonio, Cresswell, Ogbonna and Fabianski are all of an age where they'd happily sit on our bench (I imagine). Lanzini could probably be convinced.

The issue then is cost, especially upfront.
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YorksHammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:41 pm Inverted fullbacks, IB - they're the future of football.
:lol: :lol:
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Cuenca 'ammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 2:27 pm if that's our upgraded forward line and CM done, then we're in for a VERY long (or short if you like) season..

imvho that is of course..
Castellanos sounds very “ Sully special”….and we’ve had a few, perhaps law of averages says he gets one right eventually.
Not totally convinced by Dennis, but at least he’s done a bit at PL level, but surely he has to be a versatile bench option instead of Yarmo, we must be looking at a striker above this level as the main forward signing, Nunez dropping to David dropping to Dennis just won’t do it.
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1895Hammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:50 pm He plays either side, one of those unusual 2 footed footballers!
Just cos someone has played somewhere at a pinch it doesn't make it their natural position. If somehow we did get him sticking him on the wrong wing would be crackers!
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Wilko1304 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:45 pm Telegraph reporting Everton trying to beat Villa to Tarkowski. "Everton have jumped to the front of the queue"
Good news :thup:
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Marky wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:35 pm Misko, do you rate denayer? Do you expect him to come to the prem?
Hard to tell. He played well at the beginning, being the most reliable CB we had. But last 2 years have not been so great, especially this season. He got kicked out of the starting XI by a 18yo.

He is rather good at reading the game, he is most of the time well positionned. He is average in the air (a bit short, I think) but rather pacey, which helps him against the fast attackers. He is not bad with the ball too, he can sometimes make decisive carries. To me, the problem in his game is that he lacks of aggressivity, letting the opponent carry the ball too much. I guess it is a cautious way of defending, but it can be very frustrating, allowing the opponents to have nice strolls in your last 30 yards.

I think he can be Premier League material, but not as a superstar. He can be a good siedkick, but he needs to be paired with a domintaing CB, imho.
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DL would you take the £150m for Rice if the other £150m is just fiction?
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I like the look of Joel Piroe at Swansea. I think he could be something special.
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YorksHammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:46 pm There's a bit of squad player need, though - it's the lack of squad players in, say, central midfield that mean Rice and Soucek have had to play 50 games this season.
There’s a need for players. Not necessarily a need for squad players. We had 4 CM in the squad this season, yet two played 50+ games. I’d rather we had 3 CM in the squad and all of them be players we are happy to play. If we signed Brownhill, I’d want Rice and Soucek to play every game. The same way we did when we had Kral and Noble. CM is an area where we need to spend and add proper quality to. Even if it’s the one and Coventry as the 4th.
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YorksHammer wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:46 pm There's a bit of squad player need, though - it's the lack of squad players in, say, central midfield that mean Rice and Soucek have had to play 50 games this season.
Exactly this, we need to add both on the pitch and to the squad. LB, LCB, Left attack and certainly at Striker all come before CM for me. If we had a Man City style budget we could buy these and still have £50m for the CM.

We do not have this sort of budget though so somewhere we will have to add players who (injuries permitting) sit primarily on the bench, come on in the last 15 to rest a starter and play the occasional match (be it cup or league) instead of the starter.

The drop off in quality is why the Sky 6 are where they are, they can afford the deeper squads where that drop off from starter to bench player is less noticeable.
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