The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Puncher12 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:07 pm

Just seen Januzaj is on a free, Moyes was the one who gave him his first break at Utd, did he bring him Sociedad aswell? 40+ appearances last year in La Liga for Sociedad, be suprised if we didn't have a slight interest in him again

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Ironing Board » Wed May 25, 2022 4:10 pm

Would be an interesting signing. A punt with good upside.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by westhamerica » Wed May 25, 2022 4:14 pm

Puncher12 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 3:22 pm
Twitters having a mad one today, I still can't believe the amount of fans who think Soucek needs to go. I think people are high off the fumes of European football and are forgetting where we were a few years ago and how much he stabilised that midfield along with Rice since he signed.

People genuinely wanting to sell Soucek and cash in and buy Brownhill need their heads examined.
The guy can barely carry the ball forward, is generally a negative passer, and sometimes it looks like his brain isn't connected to his feet. No doubting his physical and aerial ability, or his off the ball intelligence, but it's not hard to see how people might prefer a different type of midfielder with a more progressive style.

I'd prefer to keep as he seems to fit a certain cog in the Moyes system, but if there is an exceptional offer I would fully sell and reinvest. Not sure if Brownhill is the guy we should be talking about regardless, since he's basically a budget Rice.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by steveyrockstar » Wed May 25, 2022 4:22 pm

I'm very surprised to see that Ward-Prowse, who is 28 next season, signed a new 5 year contract with the Saints last year, especially given how highly rated he seems to be. Seems to suggest he is happy to stay at the Saints for his career given how much bargaining power that gives the club - or maybe he didn't think he was good enough to get attention from 'bigger' clubs?

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by hammerman11 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:23 pm

So we sell soucek and then need 3 CM to come in. We need to now to add cover . Brownhills is one fir 29m who else ?

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Wilko1304 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:24 pm

Can't help but want this one to happen. Really not sure I've got the words to justify why, but there's just a *something* about it that means I'll find it fun even if it goes tits up

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Aztec Hammer » Wed May 25, 2022 4:27 pm

Puncher12 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:02 pm
Yes, hence the post lol? If you search both names on twitter, it's there

And I love Moyes but let's not pretend he doesn't do ANY wrong in the transfer market, Moyes also let Haller go didn't he? How's he got on since leaving us? I have faith with Moyes and his signings but he's also made some suspect signings aswell, Hugill for example aswell.

Everyone says have faith in Moyes, and I do, but I also had faith we'd have found a striker in the last 3 transfer windows.
Honestly, if you find me the post that directly says we should replace Soucek with Brownhill, then I’ll be on your side.

What I’ve seen is those that are open to Soucek being sold are open to it because they want to see someone like JWP, Phillips or Bissouma next to Rice instead.

That’s very different to Brownhill.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Aztec Hammer » Wed May 25, 2022 4:29 pm

hammerman11 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:23 pm
So we sell soucek and then need 3 CM to come in. We need to now to add cover . Brownhills is one fir 29m who else ?
What? Are you saying Brownhill for £29m? Really?

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by I am Legend » Wed May 25, 2022 4:29 pm

Wilko1304 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:24 pm
Can't help but want this one to happen. Really not sure I've got the words to justify why, but there's just a *something* about it that means I'll find it fun even if it goes tits up
River Plate are desperate for him to replace Alvarez (going to Man City) so that alone should tell you that he has high potential.

Fortunately for us they can't afford Castellanos, so fingers crossed we get him in. He's got the goal scoring ability and the work ethic to succeed here but you never really know how long it will take a South American to adapt. Him having moved from Chile, to US means he is at least used to having to adapt to new places and cultures.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Puncher12 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:29 pm

Aztec Hammer wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:27 pm
Honestly, if you find me the post that directly says we should replace Soucek with Brownhill, then I’ll be on your side.

What I’ve seen is those that are open to Soucek being sold are open to it because they want to see someone like JWP, Phillips or Bissouma next to Rice instead.

That’s very different to Brownhill.
Whats your twitter @, I'll tag you.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Puncher12 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:30 pm

westhamerica wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:14 pm
The guy can barely carry the ball forward, is generally a negative passer, and sometimes it looks like his brain isn't connected to his feet. No doubting his physical and aerial ability, or his off the ball intelligence, but it's not hard to see how people might prefer a different type of midfielder with a more progressive style.

I'd prefer to keep as he seems to fit a certain cog in the Moyes system, but if there is an exceptional offer I would fully sell and reinvest. Not sure if Brownhill is the guy we should be talking about regardless, since he's basically a budget Rice.

Yeah, I'm not saying he should be our starter alongside Rice but I don't agree with selling him, espcailyl when we've lost Noble and Kral already in CM and were already short in the position. There is absolutely no shame in keeping Soucek as 3rd cover, especially with Europe.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Aztec Hammer » Wed May 25, 2022 4:31 pm

Puncher12 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:29 pm
Whats your twitter @, I'll tag you.
Oh on that cesspool of mentalists. Yeah, I’ll avoid that. I thought you meant on here, where you generally find less attention seekers and slightly more nuanced debate.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Puncher12 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:32 pm

Aztec Hammer wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:27 pm
Honestly, if you find me the post that directly says we should replace Soucek with Brownhill, then I’ll be on your side.

What I’ve seen is those that are open to Soucek being sold are open to it because they want to see someone like JWP, Phillips or Bissouma next to Rice instead.

That’s very different to Brownhill.

Also, personally I don't know why it has to be sell him or sign no-one else. We signed Soucek for what? 16m, 2 years left on his deal, I don't know why people aren't happy to keep him as 3rd place cover, we've got 50 games again next year. I don't think he should be sold but definitely should go for a JWP still. Gutted Leeds stayed up aswell as Phillips is ideal.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Ironing Board » Wed May 25, 2022 4:32 pm

I am Legend wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:29 pm
River Plate are desperate for him to replace Alvarez (going to Man City) so that alone should tell you that he has high potential.

Fortunately for us they can't afford Castellanos, so fingers crossed we get him in. He's got the goal scoring ability and the work ethic to succeed here but you never really know how long it will take a South American to adapt. Him having moved from Chile, to US means he is at least used to having to adapt to new places and cultures.
MLS players tend to find the PL an easy (easier) adaptation. Having Lanzini would probably help too.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Puncher12 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:33 pm

Aztec Hammer wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:31 pm
Oh on that cesspool of mentalists. Yeah, I’ll avoid that. I thought you meant on here, where you generally find less attention seekers and slightly more nuanced debate.
Haha tbf my first post was "twitters on a mad one today" too many panda pops, that's why I came here for the first time in a few months, needed to hear from some level headed Hammers.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by StevePottsGoalsReel » Wed May 25, 2022 4:33 pm

Ironing Board wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:10 pm
Would be an interesting signing. A punt with good upside.
Definitely. At that price, sounds like a perfect option for a third striker behind Antonio and TBC.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Ironing Board » Wed May 25, 2022 4:34 pm

The internet really is a laugh:

May 17, 2022 — West Ham United's hopes of signing James Ward-Prowse from Southampton this summer are surely now dead and buried.

3 hours ago — West Ham are reportedly expected to make an offer for Southampton midfielder James Ward-Prowse for a potential summer move.

:lol:

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by WestHamLyallStyle » Wed May 25, 2022 4:38 pm

StevePottsGoalsReel wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:33 pm
Definitely. At that price, sounds like a perfect option for a third striker behind Antonio and TBC.
I was thinking TBC was a player for a minute or two there. You know how players are known these days, SWP, KDB, RVP etc.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Aztec Hammer » Wed May 25, 2022 4:39 pm

Puncher12 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:32 pm
Also, personally I don't know why it has to be sell him or sign no-one else. We signed Soucek for what? 16m, 2 years left on his deal, I don't know why people aren't happy to keep him as 3rd place cover, we've got 50 games again next year. I don't think he should be sold but definitely should go for a JWP still. Gutted Leeds stayed up aswell as Phillips is ideal.
I think most are happy to have him as 3rd place cover and competing to start. Actually probably even more are happy to see him continue to start. I’m in the minority at wanting someone else to start for us in the middle but more than happy for him to be in the rotation and competing.

For me it’s just also important to know when the right moment is to sell an asset high and push on. In Soucek’s case, being that I don’t particularly rate him as a player and do feel that we need a better pure footballer in there, I’m open to selling him if we can get a £45m offer. It seems Moyes might be too.

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Re: The Summer Transfer Thread 2022.

Post by Aztec Hammer » Wed May 25, 2022 4:43 pm

To clarify, I should say that I don’t particularly rate him as an extraordinary or special player that we’d be lost without, that is. He’s obviously decent and has some nice traits.

I just can’t shake that feeling that he was more suited to helping instil some meanness and professionalism to drag us out of our doldrums than he is to advance us into perennial Top 4 and Top 6 contention.

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