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vietnammer wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:55 pm Can't help thinking of the late Amsterhammer, would he be in further disgust or punching the air with victory that it is being laid bare what Donald Trump is and always was.
Interesting. What was Amster’s stake in trump?
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sendô wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:14 pm I love how it's predominantly the Americans that like to yell the most about "freedoms" that tend to be the biggest supporters of the man who essentially tried to stage a coup undermining American democracy.
Not “essentially”. He tried. Apparently the upcoming hearings will disclose proof of trump and or his inner circle meeting with members of Oath Keepers and Proud Boys to plan the assault.
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sendô wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:14 pm I love how it's predominantly the Americans that like to yell the most about "freedoms" that tend to be the biggest supporters of the man who essentially tried to stage a coup undermining American democracy.
They'll be the same people wearing clothes proclaiming FREEDOM 1776 and wonder why black Americans are looking at them funnily :lol:
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WCpete wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:50 pm Interesting. What was Amster’s stake in trump?
He hated his ****ing guts and started a FB site concentrated on the issue about 6 years ago.
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vietnammer wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:49 pm He hated his ****ing guts and started a FB site concentrated on the issue about 6 years ago.
Yesterday was the 4th anniversary of the death of an old friend of mine who for some reason loved trump even though he lived in London.

He would get really upset with me for never spelling trumps name with a capital T :lol:

This was a bloke I knew from cruise ships who stole over $10,000 from the casino we worked in so I can see why he eventually gravitated towards liking the crook trump.
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Rudy, Rudy, Rudy.

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Totally not worrying at all.
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This Independant state legislature doctrine is what Trump and his cronies pushed for to keep him in power in 2020: Republican state legislatures throwing out the will of the people and sending electors for Trump to Congress rather than the Biden electors the majority voted for.

That doctrine would also give to state legislatures the power to control who can vote, and how and where they can do so. It would strip power from elections commissions and secretaries of state, and it would take from state courts the power to challenge gerrymandering or voter suppression. Republicans currently control 30 state legislatures, in large part thanks to the gerrymandering and voter suppression in place in a number of those states.

This move essentially puts the Republicans - Trump Republicans - in the White House in perpetuity.

Top conservative judge J. Michael Luttig has been e warning about this for months “Trump and the Republicans can only be stopped from stealing the 2024 election at this point if the Supreme Court rejects the independent state legislature doctrine (thus allowing state court enforcement of state constitutional limitations on legislatively enacted election rules and elector appointments) and Congress amends the Electoral Count Act to constrain Congress' own power to reject state electoral votes and decide the presidency.”

In just one term that Trump’s three justices have been on the court, they have ripped up the legal landscape in the US, slashing power from the federal government, where Congress represents the majority, and returning it to states, where a Republican minority can impose its will. Due to the way the electoral system is skewed those states are now about to take control of the federal government permanently.

Reagan started all this 35 years ago when he nominated originalist Robert Bork for the Supreme Court. Senator Edward Kennedy knew what was up:

“Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists would be censored at the whim of government, and the doors of the federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is often the only protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy.”
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And Dem Justice Breyer is retiring, leaving just 2 liberal judges on the SC. Let's see if the GOP allow Biden to appoint another in the next 2 years.
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WCpete wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:37 pm And Dem Justice Breyer is retiring, leaving just 2 liberal judges on the SC. Let's see if the GOP allow Biden to appoint another in the next 2 years.
He's already been replaced by Ketanji Brown Jackson hasn't he?
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:21 pm He's already been replaced by Ketanji Brown Jackson hasn't he?
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vietnammer wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:55 pm Can't help thinking of the late Amsterhammer, would he be in further disgust or punching the air with victory that it is being laid bare what Donald Trump is and always was.
I don't wish to speak ill of the dead but we need to remember that he was a very left wing hippy not that much different from Stockwell Pete.
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Ralph Mellish wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:53 pm I don't wish to speak ill of the dead but we need to remember that he was a very left wing hippy not that much different from Stockwell Pete.
Calling someone a 'left wing hippy' isn't speaking ill of anyone. No more than saying someone is a conservative.
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Conservatives don’t really get called ‘Conservative’ any more though, certainly not in this country, normally it’s ‘Tory scum’. Not sure what the equivalent is in the US, I’m sure it’s equally balanced and mature!
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Macca1973 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:32 pm Conservatives don’t really get called ‘Conservative’ any more though, certainly not in this country, normally it’s ‘Tory scum’. Not sure what the equivalent is in the US, I’m sure it’s equally balanced and mature!
I though you were well versed in all things of the US political right?
You have a short memory. White Trash seems to be the traditional and has been for many decades.
Didn't you take a little umbrage over that and leave KUMB "forever" not so long ago.

Nice to see you back
There have been a shortage of right thinking supporters commenting on here about the Jan 6th hearings.
Anything you'd like to add, they seem to be easily available in the UK so I'm sure you've been watching, and thinking.
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TSmitty wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:55 pm I though you were well versed in all things of the US political right?
You have a short memory. White Trash seems to be the traditional and has been for many decades.
Didn't you take a little umbrage over that and leave KUMB "forever" not so long ago.

Nice to see you back
There have been a shortage of right thinking supporters commenting on here about the Jan 6th hearings.
Anything you'd like to add, they seem to be easily available in the UK so I'm sure you've been watching, and thinking.
Conservative definitely used here. As in...

Traditional Conservatives are trying to distance themselves from donald trump :lol:
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Is it not a bit weird that here we are talking about a trial which is currently discussing how the departing President tried to declare a just and fair election as fraudulent, and inspired a group of his supporters to attack a building - and that bloke is currently considering running again?

Is this not a good time in life to hold hands up and ask 'Perhaps winning isn't the most important thing in this case?'.

I mean seriously. I'm currently sitting in a hotel lobby in Lagos, Nigeria talking to a couple of Nigerian chaps....and THEY are taking the piss out of the political situation in America. I mean...that's where we are.
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:21 pm He's already been replaced by Ketanji Brown Jackson hasn't he?
You are correct. For some reason I thought she was was replacing Bader Ginsberg but forgot about the zealot Coney Barrett. I'm completely in denial. I've erased large chunks of the last several years.

Elsewhere, GOP primaries are in full swing, and on the evidence, we are so, so ****ed.





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Shabu wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:09 pm Conservative definitely used here. As in...

Traditional Conservatives are trying to distance themselves from donald trump :lol:
We'd be spinning our wheels with names of all the endless varieties and degrees of "Conservatives" out there.
Trumpers or no. I think WT seems to fit the majority pretty well though

There seems to be a dearth on here though so I'd like to see what Macca and others have to say
whatever degree they are.
He was pretty chatty a year or so ago
Shame we're not likely to hear from that Canadian nutjob who's name escapes me for the moment.
Likely he's running for at least a house seat by now
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