1,700 Liverpool fans can't be wrong [non WHU]

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Re: 1,700 Liverpool fans can't be wrong [non WHU]

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chalks wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:24 pm Don’t believe a word of it, sorry

The away support of Liverpool have been doing exactly that for decades. Way before Hillsborough, and (possibly worse given what happened in Sheffield), for decades after. Law of averages said at some stage people would get hurt
Hillsborough, Heysel, Paris… three Police forces all at fault.. don’t you know…
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Just remove The 1,700 from the title of this thread and you get nearer the truth.
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They’ve even published books detailing the jibbing, thieving and fighting across Europe before they got us all banned for years.

Over commemorating Hillsborough was a way of diverting attention from all the problems they genuinely did cause. You never hear as much about the Munich air disaster, the Bradford fire, Chelsea and Leicester officials, Sala etc.
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From what I understand jibbing in to games and gigs was commonplace in the 70’s and 80’s. I know some salt of the earth cockney’s that went to 4 F.A Cup Finals and didn’t pay once…
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D C wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:23 pm From what I understand jibbing in to games and gigs was commonplace in the 70’s and 80’s. I know some salt of the earth cockney’s that went to 4 F.A Cup Finals and didn’t pay once…
Think about Liverpool fans attacking City’s team bus. No arrests. The Roma supporter who seriously hurt a Liverpool fan is now doing time.

Carragher has recently had to come out and inform Scousers that naming the man who murdered that 9 year old girl isn’t grassing. That’s how ignorant and disgusting they can be.
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You will never ever read a BBC piece that is even slightly critical of their support. This is a big part of where the disdain for them comes from and why they’re generally loathed by oppo support, despite having as many decent travellers as bad ones.

It’s no shock at how many of their chief reporters have previously worked at the Echo, etc.

The recent Queen stuff is a perfect example - not even a murmur about the fact they couldn’t even stay respectful for 30 seconds.
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Ive just put on my black armband to read this thread
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Salt of the Earth.
Wouldn't say a word against the......fill in blanks.....
Hate them with a passion. Coincidences do exist, you know.....
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e17 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:10 pm You will never ever read a BBC piece that is even slightly critical of their support. This is a big part of where the disdain for them comes from and why they’re generally loathed by oppo support, despite having as many decent travellers as bad ones.

It’s no shock at how many of their chief reporters have previously worked at the Echo, etc.

The recent Queen stuff is a perfect example - not even a murmur about the fact they couldn’t even stay respectful for 30 seconds.
Oh Please !!! FFS. Whatever your opinion of Liverpool fans you can hardly condemn them en masse for the irresponsible behavious of a small precentage of a 50,000 pls crowd.

I don''t know how old you are byut I'm old enough to remember the National Front handing out leaflets and trying to recruit members in Green Street prior to our home matches. A few people joined up and, just like you are doing, some people jumped to the conclusion that ALL West Ham fans were neo nazis.

We all know there were some Liverpool fans without tickets at Hillsborough. Just as we know there were serious errors on the part of the police. Unfortunately as always seems to happen in these scenarios it was probably the poor sods with legitimate tickets at the front of the ground who were crushed whilst the scumbags trying to get a freebie walked away. Doesn't excuse the proven cover up subsequently though , does it ?
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beers,please ignore. When will I learn?
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Toulouse_Iron wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:41 am beers,please ignore. When will I learn?
It's an emotive subject. Some on here never miss an opportunity to put the boot in.....again.
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westham,eggyandchips wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:02 am It's an emotive subject. Some on here never miss an opportunity to put the boot in.....again.
Who’s putting the boot in?
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D C wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:23 pm From what I understand jibbing in to games and gigs was commonplace in the 70’s and 80’s. I know some salt of the earth cockney’s that went to 4 F.A Cup Finals and didn’t pay once…
I'm sorry DC, but I'm afraid only Liverpool fans do it.
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Liverpool hosts the UK's by biggest Anglican cathedral and the world's largest and most prolonged sense of grievance.
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westham,eggyandchips wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:33 am I'm sorry DC, but I'm afraid only Liverpool fans do it.
I can’t see anywhere where anyone has suggested only Liverpool supporters do it, the difference is that where other clubs may have a couple of dozen that try, they tend to have at least couple of hundred. Week in week out.

Anyone that’s been going to stadiums since the 70’s knows about Liverpool. I remember at the time of Hillsborough so many people saying ‘well that’s been coming’

The failure of it being acknowledged in the report is, in my opinion, wrong. The fact that the whole of Liverpool ignore that it played a part, is embarrassing. That they continue it to this day, in equally large numbers, just about sums them up.
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chalks wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:57 am I can’t see anywhere where anyone has suggested only Liverpool supporters do it, the difference is that where other clubs may have a couple of dozen that try, they tend to have at least couple of hundred. Week in week out.

Anyone that’s been going to stadiums since the 70’s knows about Liverpool. I remember at the time of Hillsborough so many people saying ‘well that’s been coming’

The failure of it being acknowledged in the report is, in my opinion, wrong. The fact that the whole of Liverpool ignore that it played a part, is embarrassing. That they continue it to this day, in equally large numbers, just about sums them up.
Are you saying that the mob who triedto gatecrash Wembley without tickets at the Final of the Euros were shipped down from Liverpool to orchestrate the gate crashing ?
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Take It Easy wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:48 pm Sadly yes.
Anyone remember Loftus Road many moons ago? Got there late(ish) with a mate and I had a bad feeling about the numbers there, without knowing what was going on. I found a wall/barrier and stood back against it. Within 5 minutes of getting in, he’d been forced onto the pitch and I was still at the back by the wall.
I was at the front one evening game there. Police wouldn't move us to the empty stand on our left, despite the obvious crush that was occurring. We ended up jumping over the wall onto the pitch to get away from it
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Kermit wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:05 am Are you saying that the mob who triedto gatecrash Wembley without tickets at the Final of the Euros were shipped down from Liverpool to orchestrate the gate crashing ?
Must have been at our game in Genk last season too.
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Kermit wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:56 am Oh Please !!! FFS. Whatever your opinion of Liverpool fans you can hardly condemn them en masse for the irresponsible behavious of a small precentage of a 50,000 pls crowd.

I don''t know how old you are byut I'm old enough to remember the National Front handing out leaflets and trying to recruit members in Green Street prior to our home matches. A few people joined up and, just like you are doing, some people jumped to the conclusion that ALL West Ham fans were neo nazis.

We all know there were some Liverpool fans without tickets at Hillsborough. Just as we know there were serious errors on the part of the police. Unfortunately as always seems to happen in these scenarios it was probably the poor sods with legitimate tickets at the front of the ground who were crushed whilst the scumbags trying to get a freebie walked away. Doesn't excuse the proven cover up subsequently though , does it ?
Read what I’ve said again Kermit…

As I’ve previously stated on this very forum, I was at games in the 80s where we felt like we were a breath away from experiencing Hillsboro ourselves before the events of that day happened, both WHU and as a neutral at places like the old Wembley, Turin and Heysel…

I also spent a good 10 years working at the Beeb, so I’m fairly clued up as to the level of biased and partial reporting that goes on there. They’ve a history of treating all things Merseyside as being beyond reproach or worse still, with martyrdom.

I was explaining where a lot of the mass dislike for their lot originates from, not claiming our glass house is impervious to stones mate!
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