The Truss Government Sep-Oct 2022 (49 days)

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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:39 am

Without going into the whole what's working class thing - looking at the polling they don't. They supported Johnson, the promise of levelling up and brexit.

43.6% of the those eligible to vote. That's why first past the post doesn't work.
The majority of voters didn't support Johnson, levelling up or Brexit.
None of which have worked out very well at all.
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"Investors seem inclined to regard the UK Conservative Party as a doomsday cult, according to Paul Donovan, chief economist of UBS Global Wealth Management."

A ringing endorsement.
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Essexmaniac wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:16 am 43.6% of the those eligible to vote. That's why first past the post doesn't work.
The majority of voters didn't support Johnson, levelling up or Brexit.
None of which have worked out very well at all.
Was actually 43.6% of those that did vote.

Given there was a 67% turnout, that means (if my maths is correct) something like 29.2% of those eligible voted for this government.

EDIT: also worth noting that the only age group who voted majority Tory were 60+ - I don't think voting patterns have ever been as polarised as this before:

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From the times

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Been reading a few comments from the 150k plus club who rightly point out it's pointless being better off if the society around you is crumbling

They still need police , a+e etc
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E15Iron wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:56 am We need a general election now. What this government is introducing is not what was presented to the country at the last election.
Most of it was
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According to Sky the letters of no confidence are already going in to trigger a vote against Truss

What a shambles
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swash wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:40 am According to Sky the letters of no confidence are already going in to trigger a vote against Truss

What a shambles
Three weeks into the job and they already think they’ve picked the wrong person.
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swash wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:40 am According to Sky the letters of no confidence are already going in to trigger a vote against Truss

What a shambles
For the country it's another disgrace but for the Tory party its a shambles if true

If people weren't suffering it would be hilarious
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swash wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:40 am According to Sky the letters of no confidence are already going in to trigger a vote against Truss

What a shambles
I thought Boris would give it at least a year :crylol:
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StevePottsGoalsReel wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:52 am I thought Boris would give it at least a year :crylol:
He'll be the Tory leader at the next election. :)
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EvilC wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:43 am Three weeks into the job and they already think they’ve picked the wrong person.
The problem is that the Tory system gave the party little choice. I don't think the membership wanted either Sunack or Truss. Idiot MPs and their own personal ambition shaped the candidates
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swash wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:40 am According to Sky the letters of no confidence are already going in to trigger a vote against Truss

What a shambles
Wouldn't be surprised at all. It seems pretty standard for Tory MPs to lodge the letters and just leave them on record. When the Johnson stuff started there were already a number of letters in from what I remember.

Both the main parties seem like they are split asunder and all the political maps need redrawing. The Tories are 2 maybe even more parties within one now.
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Bend it like Repka wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:43 am The problem is that the Tory system gave the party little choice. I don't think the membership wanted either Sunack or Truss. Idiot MPs and their own personal ambition shaped the candidates
I don't think the membership could find their arse with both hands. Who do you think the membership wanted?
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Sunak said Truss's actions would lead to interest rates getting to 7% and she called it negative language.

What a mess.
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swash wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:40 am According to Sky the letters of no confidence are already going in to trigger a vote against Truss

What a shambles
That's not quite as surprising as it might sound. The party membership choose the leader from two candidates eventually put forward by MPs. In every vote by those MPs (I think) Sunak came out as the one they wanted. Truss didn't win one MPs' vote.
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Up the Junction wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:34 pm
Also described their plans as "playing A level economics with people's lives".

Really glad to see that 3 months of shutting down the government during such a difficult time has fixed what was ailing the Conservative's.
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EvilC wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:43 am Three weeks into the job and they already think they’ve picked the wrong person.
In fairness to them, they already knew she was the wrong person, but were/are hamstrung by the selection being controlled by 81K rabid Tory pensioners. Unless they manage to stitch up the parliamentary election so only 2 "good" (or at least non-disastrous) candidates go through to the party election or they manage to change the rules so that only the MPs get a say, they (and asa a result, we) are doomed to live in a horror movie remake of groundhog day, where each replacement is progressively worse than the last one.

God knows where they find a "good" candidate from though - Sunak was probably the least bad (of the ones who managed to build support among the MPs) and he'd gone stark, staring mad by the end of the campaigning.
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:11 pm Also described their plans as "playing A level economics with people's lives".

Really glad to see that 3 months of shutting down the government during such a difficult time has fixed what was ailing the Conservative's.
Amazing - appointing innumerate incomptent clowns to run an economy in "not really working no matter how the Tory papers try to spin it" shocker. I'm just waiting for the "Flushed down the Kwazi" headlines to start... any minute now, I should think
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Kludgehammer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:33 pm As a serious historical question - has there ever been a worse series of 4 PMs than this? I'd say Cameron was disastrous, May was worse, Johnson was an utter disgrace, and based on her record and utterances so far, Truss may actually be worse than Johnson, which is really going some.
Truss is off to a pretty strong start on her challenge to be "even worse than the last 3 - yes, even including Johnson".
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