taust68 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:31 am
I don't blame anyone for not reading the news about all this kind of stuff, all it does is stress you out, like someone else said scary times
I just had to pick up on this point up because I personally avoid reading or watching the news because I find it mostly depressing, but I do manage to keep across the main themes.
However, since the pandemic closed my local pub, threads such as these replace those pub conversations where you can chat with other people, get views, opinions and comments on things that often others are better informed than I am. Some comments are alarming, some reassuring but you tend to arrive at a balance. I don't click all the links, and I don't misinterpret opinion as fact.
Basically, thanks to those who run and support KUMB that enables this space, and thanks to all the contributors, keep it coming
MB wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:24 pm
Sounds like a breakthrough in the South now as well. Up to 25,000 Russians could be trapped. At the very least they won't be leaving with their heavy equipment.
Seems to be happening quicker than anyone realised. Four hours between the positions on this map and the map is produced by a pro-Russian source.
Story at the weekend of Russian soldiers requesting air support via the Telegram app!
Mixed reports in the South with some suggestion the Russians have retreated in good order. Expert opinion seems to be that they will fall back to the river line and dig in. That will probably tell us just how much good order they are in.
Doesn't change the strategic problem for Russia in that they will have a cauldron to defend with only one bridge to bring in supplies.
Also brings the Ukrainian artillery closer.
One to keep an eye on in the next week.
In the East, the main Russian supply route is now in range of Ukrainian artillery so again one to watch.
MB wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:12 am
Mixed reports in the South with some suggestion the Russians have retreated in good order. Expert opinion seems to be that they will fall back to the river line and dig in. That will probably tell us just how much good order they are in.
Doesn't change the strategic problem for Russia in that they will have a cauldron to defend with only one bridge to bring in supplies.
As soon as the Russians have their backs to the river, Ukraine forces will blow the bridge.
The Russians won't last a week before giving in due to running out of food and ammo.
the pink palermo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:41 am
Don't kid yourself.
The USA will have been supplying high grade intelligence based upon eavesdropping for months.
Ukraine will know exactly what they are up against.
They don't need the US for that based on the number of intercepted mobile phone calls I've seen on social media!
To the extent it means anything now, these are some of Russia's best troops and equipped with the latest gear. Your reading is the the majority view, I just hope it doesn't end up being too costly on either side. The collapse is probably inevitable it is just the cost that worries me given the inevitably. That may mean the Ukrainians don't blow the bridge. Sun Tzu and all that...
The only good thing PP is that even hardliners in Russia are putting out that it will be the end of Russia if that happens.
But yes some of Putin's holy war against the West language is reason to worry.
Oh and looks like things are worse in the South for Russia. The Ukrainians captured some regular unit soldiers who were on average 10-15kgs underweight.
the pink palermo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:00 pm
I fear we are approaching the point where Putin will openly threaten the use of a tactical nuclear weapon.
Russia are losing this warcand Putin wont have it .
I think he'll do more than threaten it. I think it's only a matter of time.
If he does that then all bets are off on how much this escalates.
Hopefully some of his inner circle realise that he's just leading everyone into a nuclear war for no good reason and slot him in his sleep.
