The Sack Race 2023/2024 - new season, new sackings (PL body count: 1)

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Believer wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:18 pm Looks like QPR have allowed Rangers to approach Beale. He was the brains behind Gerrard during his stint in the hot seat allegedly.

On another note, there are rumours that we either don’t pay compo or pay a lot less if we go bottom 3. (I say rumours - I read it on another site)
It might be a good moment for Beale to leave too, as QPR have been winless in their last 5 games since he was linked to the Wolves and Villa job. Losing 4, drawing 1.
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Ironing Board wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:33 pm Celtic would definitely be the biggest challenge. They have a lot of supporters with very deep pockets. Given the commercial opportunity of the Premier League they would find many looking for any excuse to invest a tonne.

As you say, they would be too dangerous to let in so it will never happen.
Cant leave that unchallenged.
The lower leagues are littered with 'big clubs', if the sweaties are that special, let them start in League 2 (by your reckoning they'll be in the Prem in just 3 yrs). FWIW, I reckon mid - table championship, but hey.... let's see.
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Ironing Board wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:29 pm Steven Gerrard incoming at Ibrox….
That's probably his level ig he can bring his former assistant again. He can't
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Tenbury wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:08 am I reckon mid - table championship, but hey.... let's see.
Blimey you woke up in a good mood today Tenners.

I'd say League One, lower/mid table.
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Tenbury wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:08 am Cant leave that unchallenged.
The lower leagues are littered with 'big clubs', if the sweaties are that special, let them start in League 2 (by your reckoning they'll be in the Prem in just 3 yrs). FWIW, I reckon mid - table championship, but hey.... let's see.
Nothing to do with them being special, more to do with their massive fanbase. The Irish dysphoria gives them a big advantage and then they have an interesting history too due to being the first UK team to get a European Cup.

You have to imagine a lot of clubs would have different status if they were in different leagues. The likes of Ajax, Benfica, etc would be far more competitive.
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norse wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:34 pm That's probably his level ig he can bring his former assistant again. He can't
Doubt that'll matter that much. The key to Old Firm success is making sure you don't drop too many points to the likes of St Mirren.
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Ironing Board wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:24 pm Nothing to do with them being special, more to do with their massive fanbase. The Irish dysphoria gives them a big advantage and then they have an interesting history too due to being the first UK team to get a European Cup.

You have to imagine a lot of clubs would have different status if they were in different leagues. The likes of Ajax, Benfica, etc would be far more competitive.
History! It makes you sound like a Liverpool fan... Southampton v Rangers is hardly fair for travelling fans but I'd personally make the two Glasgow clubs start at League Two. The fourth tier.
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I wouldn't have them in any English league. Scottish football does have a huge problem, with no real competition for the top two teams apart from each other. Said problem is of their own making, for decades they've made sure the lion's share of what little money there is goes to them and nobody else. Let them reap what they've sown.

I don't see that it's up to England to extract Celtic and Rangers from a problem of their own making. Aside from that, do we really want their sectarian bigotry here?


Sorry for veering off topic, I'll say no more about it.
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btajim - mcfc wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:05 pm History! It makes you sound like a Liverpool fan... Southampton v Rangers is hardly fair for travelling fans but I'd personally make the two Glasgow clubs start at League Two. The fourth tier.
Doubt it will ever happen regardless. That said, Glasgow is one of the easier cities to get to due to rail connections.

History is important though. I don't see why that would get played down.
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:19 pm I wouldn't have them in any English league. Scottish football does have a huge problem, with no real competition for the top two teams apart from each other. Said problem is of their own making, for decades they've made sure the lion's share of what little money there is goes to them and nobody else. Let them reap what they've sown.

I don't see that it's up to England to extract Celtic and Rangers from a problem of their own making. Aside from that, do we really want their sectarian bigotry here?


Sorry for veering off topic, I'll say no more about it.
Even if they split the money equally it would make no difference. Celtic and Rangers are just too massive for anyone else to compete in the modern game. Dundee Utd and Aberdeen only managed it as the money was not so out of whack back then.
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Odd full circle here, assistant to Gerard at Rangers, then Villa, joins QPR as manager then goes back to Rangers as manager, oddly turned down Wolves a few weeks ago

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From the Daily Mail:
Kieron Dyer claims members of the Chelsea squad feel Graham Potter does not compare to former boss Thomas Tuchel, and questioned whether he could work with world-class players.
Probably the same players who forced out Tommy Tickle!
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MB wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:11 am From the Daily Mail:



Probably the same players who forced out Tommy Tickle!
Not that I give a flying feck about Chelsea, but I found it a very strange appointment in the first place. I can only see Potter getting his P45 early in the new year.
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If potter has any chance of becoming available I’d hope we’re keeping an eye on it, brilliant manager in my opinion but may have been a hard sell to the big ego players at Chelsea (a few did predict this)
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I’ve always seen Potter in the same pool of managers as the like of Moyes and Rodgers. I.e. not quite top 4 standard. But capable of competing or putting pressure on the 5th-7th placed teams. Not that’s anything to be ashamed about!

Potter’s probably one of the closest manager around who operates fairly similar to Moyes. He is one of these managers who tries to get the best out of what he’s got.

I like Graham Potter. But I do find it somewhat amusing some fans who want Moyes to go in favour for Potter, who has only really achieved one good season in the 3.5 seasons he’s had as a Premier League manager. One 9th placed finish after a 16th and 15th place finish. Yes, I know there’s a little bit more to it, managing a club of Brighton’s stature. But the point is there are no guarantees he would do any better than what Moyes has done up until this point.
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If Potter survives until the summer and is allowed to have his own proper window, Chelsea will be back in the race next year.

They must’ve been ready to write this year off by appointing him. Otherwise they’d have gone and appointed a short term results manager surely?
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hammers92 wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:58 am If Potter survives until the summer and is allowed to have his own proper window, Chelsea will be back in the race next year.

They must’ve been ready to write this year off by appointing him. Otherwise they’d have gone and appointed a short term results manager surely?
Hopefully he gets sacked soon and can come in and start a new era for West Ham after Moyes good job of steadying the club.
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hammers92 wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:58 am If Potter survives until the summer and is allowed to have his own proper window, Chelsea will be back in the race next year.

They must’ve been ready to write this year off by appointing him. Otherwise they’d have gone and appointed a short term results manager surely?
That’s a brave prediction. I need to remember if it works out though the ‘allowed to have his own proper window’ ‘is a pretty good get out of jail card I guess.
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64361824

Kolo Toure: Wigan Athletic sack boss after no wins from nine games in charge
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