All we need to do now is sack the rest of them.
The Sunak Government 2022-
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
At what point does Sunak decide he doesn't need all this sh*t and call a General Election?
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
Today hopefully. But in reality, not a chance. They’d be anihilated if there was an election in the next couple of months.
Assuming, and it is an assumption, that they don’t implode then he or his successor or his successor’s successor for that matter (who can be sure with this mob?) will sit it out until at least the autumn of next year in the hope that a) something will turn up and b) that people forget the seemingly endless Tory ****-show.
Assuming, and it is an assumption, that they don’t implode then he or his successor or his successor’s successor for that matter (who can be sure with this mob?) will sit it out until at least the autumn of next year in the hope that a) something will turn up and b) that people forget the seemingly endless Tory ****-show.
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Yeah, you're right, but if I were him I'd be thinking ".... my wife's filthy rich, I've got my place in history, let's screw these tosspots who want to stab me in the back and put them all on the dole. I can't be arsed any more ...."DaveWHU1964 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:18 pm Today hopefully. But in reality, not a chance. They’d be anihilated if there was an election in the next couple of months.
Assuming, and it is an assumption, that they don’t implode then he or his successor or his successor’s successor for that matter (who can be sure with this mob?) will sit it out until at least the autumn of next year in the hope that a) something will turn up and b) that people forget the seemingly endless Tory ****-show.
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They'll limp on hoping either Labour implodes (always a possiblity) or the economy suddenly sorts itself out and they can start throwing out the giveaways.
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
I get the sense he is actually there out of duty. Doesn't strike me as a freeloader like Boris out to make himself and his mates rich.Plashet Grove Pete wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:45 pm Yeah, you're right, but if I were him I'd be thinking ".... my wife's filthy rich, I've got my place in history, let's screw these tosspots who want to stab me in the back and put them all on the dole. I can't be arsed any more ...."
As you say he was wealthy enough before you even factor in his wife to not need the hassle. The reason this sacking took so long is because he wanted to make sure a fair process was run. I don't agree, but I respect what that days about his character.
I just think it is an impossible job. While he may limp on with a view to things being better come election time, I'm fairly sure Starmer will want him to as well. You only get a limited window to blame the other lot and there is plenty more pain to come this year.
Whoever wins the next election has no guarantees of another term after. The country is a basket case.
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
The natural next step for this shower is for someone to do time. Sooner the better.
They're embarrassing our great country.
They're embarrassing our great country.
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Best thing for Labour is the current Conservative government...and you can bet your bottom dollar they won't be upsetting that rancid apple cart just yet
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Absolutely he will. Starmer knows the game, and will play it like a fiddle as all he has to do is demand a general election at PM'Qs every week, knowing that it won't happen until 2024, and keep his policies for government under wraps.
Best thing for Labour is the current Conservative government...and you can bet your bottom dollar they won't be upsetting that rancid apple cart just yet
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Surely from a Labour point of view, the risk is that the economy makes a (even) semi-decent recovery, inflation drops off and prices start coming down.simon hammer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:56 pm Absolutely he will. Starmer knows the game, and will play it like a fiddle as all he has to do is demand a general election at PM'Qs every week, knowing that it won't happen until 2024, and keep his policies for government under wraps.
Best thing for Labour is the current Conservative government...and you can bet your bottom dollar they won't be upsetting that rancid apple cart just yet
The electorate have a very short memory, if things seem ok today, who cares what happened yesterday?
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There is nothing you can do about that.Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:07 am Surely from a Labour point of view, the risk is that the economy makes a (even) semi-decent recovery, inflation drops off and prices start coming down.
The electorate have a very short memory, if things seem ok today, who cares what happened yesterday?
Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
Surely even the remaining tory supporters must be getting pissed off with this stuff.
They continue to stick up and make excuses etc when things start to come out - eg Michelle Mone, Zahawi, the numerous sexual abuse scandals and then as time goes on and the level of corruption/dishonest that gets exposed and they are left holding the baby
They continue to stick up and make excuses etc when things start to come out - eg Michelle Mone, Zahawi, the numerous sexual abuse scandals and then as time goes on and the level of corruption/dishonest that gets exposed and they are left holding the baby
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
Genuinely astonished Zaharwi has not been nicked.
You or I would have been.
You or I would have been.
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One poll, very unlikely, long way to go etc, but the interesting thing was seeing some modelling on how that would translate to Westminster seats and it was quite shocking.
Labour: 500+
Tory: 20-25ish
LD: 20ish
SNP: 49
SNP would be the official opposition for winning 6% of the votes. Good old FPTP eh?
If that doesn't highlight the fundamental undemocratic flaw in out crap voting system I don't what will.
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And the dates of that poll don't include the Zahawi sacking...Junco Partner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:34 pm
One poll, very unlikely, long way to go etc, but the interesting thing was seeing some modelling on how that would translate to Westminster seats and it was quite shocking.
Labour: 500+
Tory: 20-25ish
LD: 20ish
SNP: 49
SNP would be the official opposition for winning 6% of the votes. Good old FPTP eh?
If that doesn't highlight the fundamental undemocratic flaw in out crap voting system I don't what will.
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
If Labour got 500+ seats out of 650 there would be no effective opposition. That wouldn't be good for our democracy either.
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
Exactly Sendo, FPTP is very bad for our democracy
51% of votes should equate as closely as is possible to 51% of the seats, 26% of the votes should get you 160 odd seats, not 20.
I guess the Tories might find out that if you live by FPTP you die by FPTP.
51% of votes should equate as closely as is possible to 51% of the seats, 26% of the votes should get you 160 odd seats, not 20.
I guess the Tories might find out that if you live by FPTP you die by FPTP.
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
The argument against PR is no party would ever get a workable majority. Mind you, given how things have been run for the last few decades some sort of coalition might be the best we can hope for.Junco Partner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:10 pm Exactly Sendo, FPTP is very bad for our democracy
51% of votes should equate as closely as is possible to 51% of the seats, 26% of the votes shouldn't get you 160 odd seats, not 20.
I guess the Tories might find out that if you live by FPTP you die by FPTP.
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Under our current systems we have coalitions, they just happen within parties behind closed doors now, rather than in public between separate parties.Plashet Grove Pete wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:28 pm The argument against PR is no party would ever get a workable majority.
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Re: The Sunak Government 2022-
Yep....see ERG, Covid Recovery Group, and however many more that exist in Tory party. I assume some must also exist in Labour?