The Sunak Government 2022-
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Let's just say that the fixed penalty notice for failing to wear a seat belt also included a penalty for failing to use a booster seat
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Personally, I'm sick of this series of resignations/sackings for impropriety. Not only is it demonstrating just how inept the PM is at choosing the people he has around him, it also shows how rotten the Tory party is.
I'm not naive enough to expect there aren't any Labour MPs who have been found to have acted similarly improperly as some of these - it wouldn't surprise me if there's at least one there with bullying allegations.
But more than anything I'm sick of it because it's taking away from focusing on actual problems for you and I and others - the cost of living, the decaying NHS, the broken and underfunded education system etc etc. Starmer didn't even bother to focus on these points at PMQs because it's easier to go after the Government's own goals than it is to pick these points up - especially in the braying House of Commons during PMQs.
I'm not naive enough to expect there aren't any Labour MPs who have been found to have acted similarly improperly as some of these - it wouldn't surprise me if there's at least one there with bullying allegations.
But more than anything I'm sick of it because it's taking away from focusing on actual problems for you and I and others - the cost of living, the decaying NHS, the broken and underfunded education system etc etc. Starmer didn't even bother to focus on these points at PMQs because it's easier to go after the Government's own goals than it is to pick these points up - especially in the braying House of Commons during PMQs.
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This. All the PM has been talking about is these kind of issues. In some ways it gives him an easy ride when he should be getting anything but. Key workers on strike and yet somehow it is more news worthy that Raab is an ****hole (like we needed anyone to tell us that!) and that rich people do what they can to not pay tax.YorksHammer wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:40 am But more than anything I'm sick of it because it's taking away from focusing on actual problems for you and I and others - the cost of living, the decaying NHS, the broken and underfunded education system etc etc. Starmer didn't even bother to focus on these points at PMQs because it's easier to go after the Government's own goals than it is to pick these points up - especially in the braying House of Commons during PMQs.
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If the PM hadn't appointed some of these ministers when he knew of allegations around them, ( Zahawhi, Raab, Braverman) then he would have more time now to talk about and deal with the main issues.
He only appointed or kept them on to appease and gain support from some wings of his party. Some of the same factions who are currently plotting against him to hasten his downfall.
He only appointed or kept them on to appease and gain support from some wings of his party. Some of the same factions who are currently plotting against him to hasten his downfall.
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Got to love coalition politicsCornelius Beal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:49 pm If the PM hadn't appointed some of these ministers when he knew of allegations around them, ( Zahawhi, Raab, Braverman) then he would have more time now to talk about and deal with the main issues.
He only appointed or kept them on to appease and gain support from some wings of his party. Some of the same factions who are currently plotting against him to hasten his downfall.
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This weeks 'Spot The C*nt Competition' was a bit easier than usual..Greatest Cockney Rip Off wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:11 am https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64506414
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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... gn=uk_main"
"The former PM is preparing to give her thoughts on where Rishi Sunak is going wrong."
I mean, it isn't like I don't think Sunak has been generally quite poor, but to have the brass neck to start offering advice to the person that is trying to clean up the bed that you shat in is pretty amazing.
"The former PM is preparing to give her thoughts on where Rishi Sunak is going wrong."
I mean, it isn't like I don't think Sunak has been generally quite poor, but to have the brass neck to start offering advice to the person that is trying to clean up the bed that you shat in is pretty amazing.
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Believe it or not there is a fair chunk of sitting Tory MP's who sincerely believe that Truss was right, it's just the 'markets' weren't ready for her brilliance. Equally, there is a fair chunk of them who earnestly believe Johnson was not a lazy, lying, corrupt incompetent and was unfairly ousted. The fact both are now 'on manoeuvres' in public should be a worry for Sunak.....and us all who've to suffer two more years of this crap.
They need and deserve a very long spell on the sidelines to go away and sort themselves out. They're an unholy mess of factions, contradictions and clapped out ideas.
They need and deserve a very long spell on the sidelines to go away and sort themselves out. They're an unholy mess of factions, contradictions and clapped out ideas.
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Don't worry. They will get their comeuppance soon enough.Junco Partner wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:10 pm
They need and deserve a very long spell on the sidelines to go away and sort themselves out. They're an unholy mess of factions, contradictions and clapped out ideas.
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Not soon enough for most, sadly.
(FWIW I think it will be a close run thing in 2024 with a hung parliament most likely)
(FWIW I think it will be a close run thing in 2024 with a hung parliament most likely)
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its worrying that anybody is actually voting them back inJunco Partner wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:19 pm Not soon enough for most, sadly.
(FWIW I think it will be a close run thing in 2024 with a hung parliament most likely)
there are people out there who think they are doing a good job
I get labour isnt everyones cup of tea but the tories are not the answer.
if they are the answer you are asking the wrong question. you are asking who is the most corrupt party you could vote for.
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Like Evil said there's loads on the right who used her to push their agendas. And despite blowing a massive hole in the already shot to **** public finances, piling thousands onto people's mortgages etc, the ERG and Tufton Street mob aren't going to go away.
No-one of sane mind wants to hear your deluded ramblings Liz.
You ****ed it, go and sit on the backbench, do some proper work for your constituents and hope for the best come election time.
Mind you Sunak's been in post for over 100 days now so it's probably time that the Tories revolt and get someone else in.
No-one of sane mind wants to hear your deluded ramblings Liz.
You ****ed it, go and sit on the backbench, do some proper work for your constituents and hope for the best come election time.
Mind you Sunak's been in post for over 100 days now so it's probably time that the Tories revolt and get someone else in.
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Is it true that the cost of the energy support scheme is actually going to be a fraction of what was being claimed originally? And that it's projected to be zero next year?
IMF can't seem to make up their minds. Back in Sept they were saying Truss cutting taxes was a problem, now they are claiming that Hunt not cutting them is a problem.
Seems fairly clear that if the outlook has improved then there is a sensible argument for tax cuts that reduce the cost of living - after all, the higher inflation is, the higher the governments' debt interest payments are. If you lower people's bills, the demand for wage increases reduces.
Debt Interest is expected to be two thirds of the deficit this year. They are mostly borrowing to pay the interest on all the previous borrowing.
IMF can't seem to make up their minds. Back in Sept they were saying Truss cutting taxes was a problem, now they are claiming that Hunt not cutting them is a problem.
Seems fairly clear that if the outlook has improved then there is a sensible argument for tax cuts that reduce the cost of living - after all, the higher inflation is, the higher the governments' debt interest payments are. If you lower people's bills, the demand for wage increases reduces.
Debt Interest is expected to be two thirds of the deficit this year. They are mostly borrowing to pay the interest on all the previous borrowing.
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and yet it’s like last autumn never happened …
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/low-tax- ... p-12801586
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/low-tax- ... p-12801586
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Most normal people would be too ashamed to show their face or be heard again but not our shortest serving Prime Minister..EvilC wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:55 am https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... gn=uk_main"
"The former PM is preparing to give her thoughts on where Rishi Sunak is going wrong."
I mean, it isn't like I don't think Sunak has been generally quite poor, but to have the brass neck to start offering advice to the person that is trying to clean up the bed that you shat in is pretty amazing.
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Must be Raab's turn to have a go by now..smuts wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:15 pm Like Evil said there's loads on the right who used her to push their agendas. And despite blowing a massive hole in the already shot to **** public finances, piling thousands onto people's mortgages etc, the ERG and Tufton Street mob aren't going to go away.
No-one of sane mind wants to hear your deluded ramblings Liz.
You ****ed it, go and sit on the backbench, do some proper work for your constituents and hope for the best come election time.
Mind you Sunak's been in post for over 100 days now so it's probably time that the Tories revolt and get someone else in.
If only it wasn't for all those poor people that he bullied...
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It obviously didn't Dave, it was all just a very bad dream that someone supremely useless at being Prime Minister, fully supported by someone supremely useless at being Chancellor, nearly f*cked the whole country up worse than it already was/is.DaveWHU1964 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:49 pm and yet it’s like last autumn never happened …
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/low-tax- ... p-12801586