Will Still (WHU Related)
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For me, the epitome of a manager without playing experience would be Houllier rather than Wenger. Wenger had an anecdotal career as a professional player, but still managed to win a French league title with Strasbourg. Houllier barely played at amateur level, but quickly became a player-manager and then manager at a small club in northern France. He also taught English at a business school in Lille. The quality of his management was noticed by a third-tier club in the late 70s, who Houllier led to promotion to the 2nd Division, and they went on to challenge for promotion to the top flight two years in a row.
As for Will Still, I know he is the flavour of the month, the hardest part is yet to come for him. But there is definitely something special about him. When I think of the situation at my own club, backward and seemingly out of touch with modern football, I am jealous of what a young man like Still can do.
As for Will Still, I know he is the flavour of the month, the hardest part is yet to come for him. But there is definitely something special about him. When I think of the situation at my own club, backward and seemingly out of touch with modern football, I am jealous of what a young man like Still can do.
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We ultimately need ambitious young new owners and and a younger manager with new ideas.
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Always chuckle when I hear the Cowley Brothers mentioned. No disrespect to them intended but "Cowley Brothers" sounds like it should be on the side of a builder's van, not the name of a football club management team.bonzosbeard wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:08 am It's all relative though isn't it.
Some here, me included, wanted the Cowley brothers when they could do no wrong.
But In the real world it's just not as simple as that.
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I think people who wanted the 'Cowley Brothers' are likely the same kind of people that always want youth team players in the team without actually having seen them play. Or who want us to sign players they hadn't heard of a week or two ago. If you had seen the way that their teams play then you would know that it is entirely agricultural and would be a disaster at the highest level. Now, Still is obviously very wet behind the ears. But when you see what that Reims side was like before he took over to how he has them playing now is very impressive, and it's how I would like to see us play. On the front foot, fearless, with character and also solid at the back. Whether it lasts or not is another thing, but he's shown a lot more in a lot less time that the 'Cowley Brothers'. And at a higher level.
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I doubt a British club will take the chance until he's got his badges.
It's a huge risk on top of paying a fine for every game he manages.
It's a huge risk on top of paying a fine for every game he manages.
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I absolute love this. It almost comes across like a parody scene from a sketch show but it is utterly brilliant.
https://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/16 ... 3053946880
I absolute love this. It almost comes across like a parody scene from a sketch show but it is utterly brilliant.
https://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/16 ... 3053946880
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Knew nothing about him until about a month ago saw the highlights against PSG and I thought Reims were superb. If he can maintain that level of football he can go to the top of the game.
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He's failed since leaving Lincoln. Was terrible at Huddersfield. Still he's constantly had to adapt he's still young we will see him again, because if he doesn't adapt he'll be managing League 2 to Non League for the rest of his days.The Straw wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:44 pm I think people who wanted the 'Cowley Brothers' are likely the same kind of people that always want youth team players in the team without actually having seen them play. Or who want us to sign players they hadn't heard of a week or two ago. If you had seen the way that their teams play then you would know that it is entirely agricultural and would be a disaster at the highest level. Now, Still is obviously very wet behind the ears. But when you see what that Reims side was like before he took over to how he has them playing now is very impressive, and it's how I would like to see us play. On the front foot, fearless, with character and also solid at the back. Whether it lasts or not is another thing, but he's shown a lot more in a lot less time that the 'Cowley Brothers'. And at a higher level.
League 2 football is abysmal.
I think Still is a different breed given all the talk about him (plus the results he is having) and it's good to see Misko give us his direct input too which further reinforces that.
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Eloquent french monologue for the French speakers and “****ing 3 points on Sunday” for the English. It’s like a Harry and Paul sketchDenzil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:23 pm (contains swearing)
I absolute love this. It almost comes across like a parody scene from a sketch show but it is utterly brilliant.
https://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/16 ... 3053946880
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One of Sullivan's specialities, appointing an old and past it coach(call it experienced if you like),rather than a young forward thinking coach.Will has little experience,but I bet he would have got a lot more out of our team in an attacking sense,than Moyes has this season.Misko wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:49 pm For me, the epitome of a manager without playing experience would be Houllier rather than Wenger. Wenger had an anecdotal career as a professional player, but still managed to win a French league title with Strasbourg. Houllier barely played at amateur level, but quickly became a player-manager and then manager at a small club in northern France. He also taught English at a business school in Lille. The quality of his management was noticed by a third-tier club in the late 70s, who Houllier led to promotion to the 2nd Division, and they went on to challenge for promotion to the top flight two years in a row.
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The problem is I feel that people panic way more with an inexperienced manager if they go on a bad run - and he would most certainly go on a bad run at whatever PL club he joined at this stage in his career, let alone us.
Lose 3 games on a spin and he'll be deemed not good enough or a flash in the pan, or he won't have the experience to turn things round (the latter would likely have truth regardless).
Lose 3 games on a spin and he'll be deemed not good enough or a flash in the pan, or he won't have the experience to turn things round (the latter would likely have truth regardless).
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#StillOutsteveyrockstar wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:36 pm The problem is I feel that people panic way more with an inexperienced manager if they go on a bad run - and he would most certainly go on a bad run at whatever PL club he joined at this stage in his career, let alone us.
Lose 3 games on a spin and he'll be deemed not good enough or a flash in the pan, or he won't have the experience to turn things round (the latter would likely have truth regardless).
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not specifically with respect to us, but have Jack and/or Callum done anything in a review or that on Still ???
just in general because I know that they do/have done a lot of stuff with up and coming managers from their podcasts
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I think they may have on their site. I also see Jack has got on about Russell Martin, who I mentioned when discussing new managers back in November. You can’t get these kids to listen…Cuenca 'ammer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:46 pm not specifically with respect to us, but have Jack and/or Callum done anything in a review or that on Still ???
just in general because I know that they do/have done a lot of stuff with up and coming managers from their podcasts
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Never heard of the bloke but I am outraged, no FUMING, that he's not our manager.
What the f*** are the board thinking? c****.
My blood is boiling.
Will In! Still In!
What the f*** are the board thinking? c****.
My blood is boiling.
Will In! Still In!
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Big lad isn't he ! Think he'd get the players attention more than Moyes seems to with a pre-match talk
Was in Reims last year and walked past their stadium which is next to the Marne Canal. Nice city but can be very hot in the summer as can the whole Champagne region.
Was in Reims last year and walked past their stadium which is next to the Marne Canal. Nice city but can be very hot in the summer as can the whole Champagne region.
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Reims have quite an interesting history. In the 1950's they got to two European Cup finals (losing to that Real Madrid side that won 5 in a row) and during that time produced a lot of legendary French internationals - the France side of 1958 got to the semis of the world cup with them.
Then it seems to have all gone bandy in the 80's.
Not really relevant to Will Still but interesting nonetheless. And perhaps a bit relatable.
Then it seems to have all gone bandy in the 80's.
Not really relevant to Will Still but interesting nonetheless. And perhaps a bit relatable.