Summer 2023/24 Transfer Thread
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
I'm not sure how much he would cost, but I think Enes Unal would do well for us. Really hard working, good finisher, runs off the last man but very comfortable with his back to goal.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
That's true to a degree.MB wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:59 pm We scored plenty and finished 6th and 7th with Antonio leading the line. We don’t need a potential 20 goal man up top, we need someone who helps make us a 60+ goal team. I think the clubs and fans have become obsessed with the idea that our finishing is the problem when, IMO, it is much wider than that.
Our finishing is well under par, but our general efficiency in promising situations is up the spout as well.
One of the key things that should be an easy win , is improving on this batch of results away from home:
Forest 0-1
Everton 0-1
Leicester 1-2
Leeds 2-2
Southampton 1-1
(Can probably add - Chelsea 1-2, Palace 3-4, Wolves 0-1)
The only good result was 4-0 at Bournemouth.
Five points from nine away games against some utter dross in the bottom half.
Crying out for some added solidity at the back in some games, and much greater quality in the attacking third in most. It isn't just about the #9, it's about all the misfiring attacking mids behind them.
Can't help pondering how different the season may have looked had Lanzini or Benrahma taken the early season penalties at Forest and Liverpool.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
There was reports of Sully getting a Director of Football in. Will we wait until they arrive, assuming this person is in place this summer, before we start signing players or will Moyes be saying to Sully, we need x player in?
Will Sully be here with rumours of takeover talk? Rumours of Moyes going after final?
Waiting til after the final next week doesn't leave us long to replace/fill/get in new players and get a pre season in. Still why worry about that, nevered really bothered us before.
Will Sully be here with rumours of takeover talk? Rumours of Moyes going after final?
Waiting til after the final next week doesn't leave us long to replace/fill/get in new players and get a pre season in. Still why worry about that, nevered really bothered us before.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
It's relative surely.MB wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:59 pm The inconsistency in front of goal is a big problem. Think he has missed more “big chances” than our whole team this season!
While Antonio has problems with his finishing; they are predictable problems which you can then compensate for in the types of chances you look to create.
Just depends how much of Nunez’s problem is mental from the pressure of playing for Liverpool as he works hard and gets in the right positions so you can see why we were interested. Just feels a big risk to me at the likely asking price.
I do tend to agree with AH’s comment on the previous page. We scored plenty and finished 6th and 7th with Antonio leading the line. We don’t need a potential 20 goal man up top, we need someone who helps make us a 60+ goal team. I think the clubs and fans have become obsessed with the idea that our finishing is the problem when, IMO, it is much wider than that.
I'd put money Nunez is a better finisher and more constant on front of goal than Antonio.
It's not something that can really be measured as its difficult to actually compare the type of chances.
Antonio's good work as a goal scorer comes in the 6 yard box imo.
He does really well getting on the end of balls into that area. Little toe to take it past the keeper. Headers also.
Outside of the 6 yard box I'd prefer probably 5 or 6 of our players to be in a position to take a shot than Antonio.
But as you say, it isn't really just his goals that we need to replace. Its his impact on a defence and an ability to get us up field
Nunez would be a huge step up for me. But alas probably unobtainable.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
He’s definitely the current “prime” of what Moyes seems to want. Embolo kinda in the same area, Thuram another but both might be more Arnie that Mic, really.
I don’t think replacing Mic is impossible, I just think it’s very difficult because those players, players who can be almost two men up front at once, they’re coveted everywhere. Most clubs play with one striker, most clubs want someone who can enable their wide players to score.
Even at the top end, Man United are looking at strikers who are better at bringing others in than they are scoring. They are right to look at Kane as maybe the best at bringing both together.
Flip side of Spurs selling Kane is that they probably dip into our higher end targets.
I don’t think replacing Mic is impossible, I just think it’s very difficult because those players, players who can be almost two men up front at once, they’re coveted everywhere. Most clubs play with one striker, most clubs want someone who can enable their wide players to score.
Even at the top end, Man United are looking at strikers who are better at bringing others in than they are scoring. They are right to look at Kane as maybe the best at bringing both together.
Flip side of Spurs selling Kane is that they probably dip into our higher end targets.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Mitchell if he comes in from Monaco, may bring Embolo with him..
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Is he coming ? I haven’t seen this reported likely by anyone
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Improve the service.
On the left you have Benrahma who seems to alternate between cutting inside and shooting, or cutting inside and crossing the ball straight into the keepers arms.
On the other is Bowen who does occasionally put a good ball across on his weaker foot. Weirdly they're better than his inswinging crosses on his favoured foot, which are generally rubbish. Most of the time though he's busy trying to weave his way infield so he can get a shot away.
We have Rice and Soucek who aren't really creators of chances.
Cresswells crossing also isn't what it used to be.
The delivery of our set-pieces generally isn't very good.
It's no surprise that our strikers are feeding off scraps or struggling to get into the game.
If we aren't going to improve the quality of that service then MB is probably right and we're better off signing a striker that causes havoc, works hard, and links up well with others rather than actually scoring lots of goals. We can have 2 wide players that run and shoot, and a striker that assists them and creates space.
On the left you have Benrahma who seems to alternate between cutting inside and shooting, or cutting inside and crossing the ball straight into the keepers arms.
On the other is Bowen who does occasionally put a good ball across on his weaker foot. Weirdly they're better than his inswinging crosses on his favoured foot, which are generally rubbish. Most of the time though he's busy trying to weave his way infield so he can get a shot away.
We have Rice and Soucek who aren't really creators of chances.
Cresswells crossing also isn't what it used to be.
The delivery of our set-pieces generally isn't very good.
It's no surprise that our strikers are feeding off scraps or struggling to get into the game.
If we aren't going to improve the quality of that service then MB is probably right and we're better off signing a striker that causes havoc, works hard, and links up well with others rather than actually scoring lots of goals. We can have 2 wide players that run and shoot, and a striker that assists them and creates space.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Morten Hjulmand.
Never seen a minute of him play besides videos on youtube but he has the most interceptions per 90 according to fbref. Based on the video he reminds me a lot of Rice two or three years when he was more defensively oriented, especially with his tackling technique.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
It's a chicken and egg situation though.Burnley Hammer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:55 pm Improve the service.
On the left you have Benrahma who seems to alternate between cutting inside and shooting, or cutting inside and crossing the ball straight into the keepers arms.
On the other is Bowen who does occasionally put a good ball across on his weaker foot. Weirdly they're better than his inswinging crosses on his favoured foot, which are generally rubbish. Most of the time though he's busy trying to weave his way infield so he can get a shot away.
Our wide players may be poor crossers, but there's also little point in swinging in a dangerous ball to Antonio (not a great header of the ball) when he's usually on his own surrounded by three or four defenders.
People get frustrated with Benrahma not crossing first time, but I'm pretty sure that's under instruction - we don't really have an aerial threat in the box unless Soucek gets up there too, which is not the greatest of tactics.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Mats Wieffer
Get this guy in to play alongside Rice and and have Paqueta operating in front of them, if Rice leaves, then we have his replacement already here..
https://fbref.com/en/players/4876c9ab/Mats-Wieffer
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mats-wi ... ler/415381
How he compares to Rice, Paqueta and Soucek
https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-m ... UOjWUmM8h9
Get this guy in to play alongside Rice and and have Paqueta operating in front of them, if Rice leaves, then we have his replacement already here..
https://fbref.com/en/players/4876c9ab/Mats-Wieffer
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mats-wi ... ler/415381
How he compares to Rice, Paqueta and Soucek
https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-m ... UOjWUmM8h9
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
You could easily recycle the Scamacca money on Abraham and still have a bit of loose change left over
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
If we lose Scamacca and one of either Antonio or Ings and replace with two from;
Abraham
Iheanacho
Gyokeres
Piroe
We will be doing very well imo.
Abraham
Iheanacho
Gyokeres
Piroe
We will be doing very well imo.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Has there been any suggestion as to which club Scamacca is headed to? It sounded to me like from EVH that a deal was pretty much done.
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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo
Don't think so, but interesting that Abraham has now been made available..steveyrockstar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:36 pm Has there been any suggestion as to which club Scamacca is headed to? It sounded to me like from EVH that a deal was pretty much done.
Coincidence?