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Re: Summer Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo

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I see Iheanacho's name pop up a lot. He strikes me as a bit of a modern-day Cameron Jerome. Let him score his 20+ goals in the C'ship next year, before struggling to score 7 in the Prem the following season.
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S-H wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:37 pm Don't think so, but interesting that Abraham has now been made available..

Coincidence?
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S-H wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:37 pm Don't think so, but interesting that Abraham has now been made available..

Coincidence?
I hope so, he doesn’t suit dour Dave either
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D C wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:43 pm I hope so, he doesn’t suit dour Dave either
I think he's more inclined to do the hard running into the channels, and pressing the opposition.

I reckon he'd be a good fit, personally.

https://fbref.com/en/players/f586779e/Tammy-Abraham
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According to several reports, we are interested/bidding for Nuno Tavares of Marseille.
This is who I suggested when Pezza mentioned we are after a player from that club.
Whether it's coincidence or my posts have significant clout on the Interweb, who knows.
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S-H wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:45 pm I think he's more inclined to do the hard running into the channels, and pressing the opposition.

I reckon he'd be a good fit, personally.

https://fbref.com/en/players/f586779e/Tammy-Abraham
Certainly more so than Haller and Scamacca but I think he’d also look isolated and frustrated far too often
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S-H wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:45 pm I think he's more inclined to do the hard running into the channels, and pressing the opposition.

I reckon he'd be a good fit, personally.

https://fbref.com/en/players/f586779e/Tammy-Abraham
I agree. He's an industrious poacher who runs the channels. The difference being that unlike Antonio, Abraham has a proper strikers instinct so will be making good runs and be in the penalty box when it matters.
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steveyrockstar wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:40 pm I see Iheanacho's name pop up a lot. He strikes me as a bit of a modern-day Cameron Jerome. Let him score his 20+ goals in the C'ship next year, before struggling to score 7 in the Prem the following season.
Surely a guy with 42 goals and 28 assists in the premier league is slightly better than Cameron Jerome?

He didn't get on with Rogers I read; but his goal involvements at Leicester in the league are better than Antonio over the last 3 years per minute in the league.

That's before you get to his cup contributions for whigh he would be very useful to us.
Last weekend by far the best of the two.
Obviously not as devastating as Mic on beast day
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S-H wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:45 pm I think he's more inclined to do the hard running into the channels, and pressing the opposition.

I reckon he'd be a good fit, personally.
There was a lot of discussion at the time he moved to Roma as to whether he could "do the Antonio role". Very hard to compare as he was playing in a high possession Chelsea team, but I seem to remember his pressing stats being impressive and more indicative of the hard worker we need in that role.

Not sure what it looks like at Roma as I've barely seen him play.

With the Euros next year and Toney on a forced break then you'd hope he would be motivated to want to start and show what he can do.
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Abraham is more finesse than physical.

Fast forward to summer 2024, he doesn’t fit what we want the striker to do, we need someone who can run and hold it up more etc etc.
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MB wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:54 pm There was a lot of discussion at the time he moved to Roma as to whether he could "do the Antonio role". Very hard to compare as he was playing in a high possession Chelsea team, but I seem to remember his pressing stats being impressive and more indicative of the hard worker we need in that role.

Not sure what it looks like at Roma as I've barely seen him play.

With the Euros next year and Toney on a forced break then you'd hope he would be motivated to want to start and show what he can do.
Surely Roma under Mourinho is similar to us under Moyes (saw them last night for the first time this season)?

TA has obviously had success under Mourinho at Roma so from that side must be somewhat transferable. But I never thought (nor last night) he was one to run the channels. Certainly more physical than Scamacca for me, but not sure enough for us in this league.

But there is a whole spectrum between Scamacca and Antonio and we need to get the right balance. Loose a bit here, gain a bit there.

I just hope the recruitment team put in as much detail as this forum.
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I don't think we should be replacing Antonio, we should be replacing Arnie.

Someone who is technical and strong who can drop deep and run in behind.
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We have to be building a team for the future, Moyes or no Moyes. Relying on a 5 goal, 33yo striker whose primary skills are holding a ball up and falling over is ridiculous. As much as he has been a great servant, Antonio should not feature in our plans other than as an impact sub.
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If Scamacca is off , then Abraham is up there with Watkins and Calvert-Lewin (on the odd occasion that he isn't broken) as the almost transformational, homegrown CF.

He has pace, is willing to press, and looked very comfortable heading opposition corners away last night, so not only does it go some way to potentially injecting some goal threat into the front line - especially against the dross - but it changes the balance of the team physically.

No need to find a big full back, no need to necessarily maintain the Soucek dependency.

His pace makes him different to Scamacca and Haller.
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D C wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:51 pm Certainly more so than Haller and Scamacca but I think he’d also look isolated and frustrated far too often
So a lot like Scamacca and Haller then? :winker:
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Croydon wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:06 pm I don't think we should be replacing Antonio, we should be replacing Arnie.

Someone who is technical and strong who can drop deep and run in behind.
A lot of top teams are looking for that type of player so the small number of proven ones out there would have better suitors than us and the price tag to match. The others are very raw, in need of time and polish and come with no guarantees but a price tag which generally bakes in that potential.

The number 9 marketplace is generally one where demand outstrips supply.
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Aztec Hammer wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:20 am Like who?

You’re describing a pretty complete striker there.

I’d be interested to know which player with all of those things would want to come and play up front for West Ham. We’ve established the position as a pretty thankless task in recent memory.
No idea. I don't watch enough football to have anything more than a passing opinion.

I refuse to believe there is nobody on this whole continent that is within our budget and can offer that upgrade.
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:59 pm I refuse to believe there is nobody on this whole continent that is within our budget and can offer that upgrade.
Afraid not...
Moyes has told the Diary of a CEO podcast of the transfer regrets from across his distinguished coaching career: “I think it’s the ones I’ve missed, the ones where you say ‘Nah, I don’t think he’s quite good enough.’ I’ve had hundreds of them. Just recently, because we’ve been talking about it, Alvarez who has just played for Argentina in the World Cup. I brought in a new scout who says ‘Look, you should go for Alvarez at River Plate’.

“I watched him and I thought he was a very good technician and done so many good things as a centre-forward. But I thought [he’s] maybe not quite the one we want, we had Micky Antonio who had been doing very well and I thought I don’t know. You see sometimes the players change in six months but I have to say there are other players like that who you don’t take and don’t go on to be a real success. But that one at the moment is just one where probably because it was only a year ago where I decided ‘Nah, he’s not one I’m going to take’.”
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YorksHammer wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:06 pm I'm not sure how much he would cost, but I think Enes Unal would do well for us. Really hard working, good finisher, runs off the last man but very comfortable with his back to goal.

He's literally just done his ACL.
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I don't buy that Moyes can only work with Antonio up front.

Considering he's had successful seasons with: Beattie, Johnson, Saha, Yakubu, Arnautovic and Antonio just off the top of my head. And I don't have IB's incredible Everton knowledge.

I remember Johnson being quite quick, but he wasn't the bulldozer Antonio is.
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