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York Ham(mer) wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:11 pm UK no longer following EU guides on cutting safe levels of BPA plastic containers. As a result, the safe level of BPA in plastic containers in the UK is now 20,000 times higher than in Europe. The chemical, which has been linked to low sperm counts and infertility in men as well as breast and prostate cancer, was ruled to be 20,000 times too high by EU officials this month after reviewing 800 new studies.

Another Brexit benefit.
That's somewhat harsh as the EU aren't following it either at this point. Neither are they following the provisional figure of 0.4 that was announced in 2021.

Lawmakers will discuss.
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Does anyone at the EU get a b*llocking for providing the guidance that we currently follow (that is only 8 years old) that is now 20,000 times too high?

This isn't really caused by Brexit, is it? The UK has just not (yet, if at all) incorporated the most recent findings into our own law.

Our government are the sort of shysters who would ignore such things though.

Are there any other articles that provide more information about this? I can only find this one jut it doesn't actually provide anything about when this was enforced in the EU and whether the government have actually commented on it.
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York Ham(mer) wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:11 pm UK no longer following EU guides on cutting safe levels of BPA plastic containers. As a result, the safe level of BPA in plastic containers in the UK is now 20,000 times higher than in Europe. The chemical, which has been linked to low sperm counts and infertility in men as well as breast and prostate cancer, was ruled to be 20,000 times too high by EU officials this month after reviewing 800 new studies.

Another Brexit benefit.
I would expect that the levels will be lower regardless of what the UK law is if food producers in The EU import to GB under the new safe levels and vice-versa, surely?

It's not like over here you'll get producers using two different containers nor would the ones in EU do so - so really, it's a bit of a non-story isn't it? A bit like when GB vehicles were going to have speed limiters for cars due to an EU ruling - mostly due to the simple fact car makers were not going to remove them on GB import models. We'll get the new packaging by default anyway.
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They already put the steering wheel on the correct side for us, why not remove the limiter while they're at it?
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Many UK businesses which import food products from the European Union will have to pay a special “Brexit tax” that will further drive up prices, particularly in smaller shops such as delicatessens, under proposals set out by the government last week.

The planned charge of £43 per consignment, outlined in a consultation document issued by the Department for Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), was described on Saturday by a leading industry figure as “the sting in the tail of a post-Brexit food inspection regime” that was already fuelling inflation.
Another Brexit bonus!
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Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor

Mark Carney says Bank’s negative predictions about consequences of leaving EU ‘proven to be the case.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... d-governor

Does anyone else feel the wool was pulled over our eyes when we were persuaded to vote for Brexit? It certainly doesn't seem to be working out too well for the average Joe. I don't know a single person who's happy with the economic outcome of Brexit.

Perhaps we could have a show of hands here?
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What's to blame for rising inflation in all the other countries then?
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Jennings wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:58 pm Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor

Mark Carney says Bank’s negative predictions about consequences of leaving EU ‘proven to be the case.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... d-governor

Does anyone else feel the wool was pulled over our eyes when we were persuaded to vote for Brexit? It certainly doesn't seem to be working out too well for the average Joe. I don't know a single person who's happy with the economic outcome of Brexit.

Perhaps we could have a show of hands here?
The article doesn't really match the headline
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One thing I don’t understand, if all of our economic problems are not the fault of COVID or the war in Ukraine but are down to ‘Brexit’, what was to blame for the recessions in the 80’s and 90’s while we were in the EU and the reason my dad lost his business and house? Where was the ‘protection’ of being in the EU?
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Where was the ‘protection’ of being in the EU?

That really only applied to French farmers.
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Trade barriers and restricted growth.


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Macca1973 wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:19 pm One thing I don’t understand, if all of our economic problems are not the fault of COVID or the war in Ukraine but are down to ‘Brexit’, what was to blame for the recessions in the 80’s and 90’s while we were in the EU and the reason my dad lost his business and house?
Thatcherism, a misplaced belief in the magic powers of 'the market', a mania for deregulation, a deliberate policy of deindustrialisation in the provinces, a slavish adherence to an outdated monetarist cult, privatisation of our assets, failure to utilise the North Sea oil bonanza to the benefit of us citizens, an over financialisation of our economy granting bankers and moneymen God-like powers over our economy and currency...

The same lies, and liars, that said privatising everything would mean lower taxes forever and better services for everyone were used to push the plainly daft Brexit project and the outcome to both has been to enrich the already ridiculously rich. Funny that.
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Macca1973 wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:19 pm One thing I don’t understand, if all of our economic problems are not the fault of COVID or the war in Ukraine but are down to ‘Brexit’, what was to blame for the recessions in the 80’s and 90’s while we were in the EU and the reason my dad lost his business and house? Where was the ‘protection’ of being in the EU?
All of our economics problems are not down to Brexit. Brexit is making them worse.

EU membership is not a panacea and will not prevent recessions. However, being part of the most sophistocares and deepest trade agreement in the world comes with significant economic benefits. Leaving it was always going to cause damage and it was never going to be possible to replace it. But everyone else knew best, and here we are.
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Macca1973 wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:19 pm One thing I don’t understand, if all of our economic problems are not the fault of COVID or the war in Ukraine but are down to ‘Brexit’.....
Outside of erroneous headlines in the grauniad, has anybody ever said that?
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Denbighammer wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:59 pm What's to blame for rising inflation in all the other countries then?
Sweden laid the blame firmly at Beyonce's door ...or was it drawers ...I've mislaid my glasses ?
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Denbighammer wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:59 pm What's to blame for rising inflation in all the other countries then?
According to this, inflation isn’t rising in 22 out of the 27 EU countries.

It also shows that it's only the former eastern bloc EU countries and Austria who have worse rates than us ... oh, and in bloody-bandaged Paul Ince style we also managed to force a draw with Italy too…

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents ... deb1b8136a

I think we're better off trying to work out why are our inflation rates are worse than all other comparable countries on our continent?
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Denbighammer wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:59 pm What's to blame for rising inflation in all the other countries then?
The point is ours is worse than most of them, certainly than the major players. The added burden of Brexit has not helped.

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-li ... ent=europe
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Cornelius Beal wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:45 pm The point is ours is worse than most of them, certainly than the major players. The added burden of Brexit has not helped.

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-li ... ent=europe
Aren’t Germany in recession?
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Macca1973 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:37 pm Aren’t Germany in recession?
Yes but the question was about inflation.
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