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DusseldorfHammer wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 1:03 pm Direct ties between Nunes and the people doing business with and for Lopetegui.
I can’t say I know much about him. Whereabouts does he play ? What’s his favoured / best position ?
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£10M.Ronnie (Buster) Edwards = Daylight robbery
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Olise plays wide right, basically where Bowen does. You spend where you need players and when they brought Olise we did not need him more than other positions.

Wharton was a miss though. Think he might well prove the Championship buy of the year, far more than the one that went to Bournemouth.
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Several big PL clubs currently in talks with Guirassy's representatives.
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DusseldorfHammer wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 3:48 pm Several big PL clubs currently in talks with Guirassy's representatives.
We were after him when he was at Amiens.

Journeyman striker, 28 and has really only had one “top” season.

Why did Rennes sell him after his big move there?

Unless it’s a decent price like £25m tops I’d let another club take the risk.
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westlondonhammer wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 12:03 pm Strikes me as a more accomplished version of Benrahma who has more on days than he did.

When you're looking at a player of his age for around 20 - 30 million you're not looking at an elite player, you are looking at a player with significant weaknesses to their game stopping them from hitting that next level. He feels like that... but that doesn't mean he doesn't improve us over the course of a season.
It depends what we’re signing him for. If we’re looking for a regular starter who’s going to make us a stronger team, you only have to look at what he did at the spuds to see that he’s not your man. For a cheap squad/rotation option, he’d probably do a job.
I wouldn’t get upset if we signed him, but I’ve seen enough of him to know that it would be a bit “meh”
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Billydinho wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 2:29 pm Right, f*ck it, it's Friday so I'm entering Football Manager fantasy levels here.

Definites to be replaced:

- Ben Johnson - Free
- Vladimir Coufal - Free
- Aaron Cresswell - Free
- Angelo Ogbonna - Free
- Thilo Kehrer - £10 million
- Kalvin Phillips - Free
- Pablo Fornals - £8.5 million
- Said Benrahma - £17 million

Total - 8 players - £35.5 million

Likely to be replaced:

- Kurt Zouma - £5 million (no idea what he'd be worth)
- Nayef Aguerd - £30 million
- Lucas Paqueta - £85 million
- Flynn Downes - P/Ex (see below)
- Michail Antonio (MLS I reckon) - Free

Total - 5 players - £120 million

Returning players from loan to be in first team squad:

- Freddie Potts

Total - 1 player

Net net, we need 12 new players just to get to a squad where we can fill a bench every week. Likely there's a necessity for 15 players by adding competition in key areas as well as rotatable quality. I am under no illusions that we'll be signing 12 players this summer, let alone 15. However, just humour me. Let's say we have a pot of £200 million with outgoing transfers (largely hinged on full £85 million for Paqueta) which means we start off with a relatively modest £45 million fund before transfer fees for outgoing players (including those unspent from January).

Defensive Ins:

- Kyle Walker-Peters* - Southampton - £10 million plus Downes
- Josip Juranovic - Union Berlin - £10 million
- Tosin Adarabioyo - Fulham - Free
- Ronnie Edwards - Peterborough - £10 million
- Alfie Doughty - Luton - £8 million
* - Largely dependent on whether Southampton get promoted

Total - £38 million

Midfield Ins:

- Khephren Thuram - Nice - £20 million
- Angel Gomes - Lille - £35 million
- Jonathan Rowe - Norwich - £18 million
- Sammie Szmodics - Blackburn - £15 million
- Jack Grealish - Manchester City - Loan

Total - £88 million

Forwards In:

Santiago Gimenez - Feyernoord - £48 million
Youssef En-Nesyri - Sevilla - £25 million

Total - £74 million

£200 million spent that would mean squad depth (at least 2 per position - preferred starter listed first) would be:

GK - Areola, Fabianski
RB - Walker-Peters, Juranovic
LB - Emerson, Doughty
RCB - Mavropanos, Edwards
LCB - Adaraboyio, Casey
RCM - Thuram, Soucek, Potts
LCM - Alvarez, Ward-Prowse
CAM - Kudus, Gomes, Szmodic
RW - Bowen, Rowe
LW - Grealish, Kudus, Gomes, Earthy
ST - Gimenez, En-Nesyri, Ings

Probably better out there, particularly at centre half, but was trying to give us some 'homegrown' coverage and youth back into the squad.

Feel free to tear it apart, thanks for reading this far.
No way are we letting Coufal go with Johnson and Cresswell going.
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alski wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 2:52 pm Think him and Alvarez with a number 10 in front would be mustard.
Yeah, Nunes is one that really fits a Lopetegui midfielder. Can do a bit of everything well, good passer and technical ability who is able to get it forward as a driving 8 but just as comfortably can drop into a holding role alongside a more pure DM. And one that can seamlessly be that central player that is constantly helping to create passing angles to keep the ball between the midfielders.

Almost seems one of those that is too good of a fit to be true because his play style, Lopetegui, their shared connections, our previous interest and Man City's interest in Paqueta make it feel very logical.
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Nunes turned us down two years ago, fwiw.
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bubbles1966 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 4:46 pm Nunes turned us down two years ago, fwiw.
Main suitors I expect to be Saudi and maybe Spurs
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Mendes directed him towards Wolves iirc. As I said with Phillips last summer, i’d be surprised if Nunes agreed to leave so soon considering the amount of City players that do much better in season 2 under Pep
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I don’t think Nunes has played enough this season to warrant his value being anywhere near what city paid for him.

Risk is way to high for the outlay.

For the money he’d likely cost I’d rather we took a gamble on Khephren Thurham or Youssef Fofana.
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Be interesting if the advent of FFP/PSR actually sees more swap deals.

Paqueta and Nunes for example. If Man City pay £90m for Paqueta they have to spread that over 5 years - if they value Nunes at £60m in an exchange that’s £12m per year amortisation for us when we only have £65m per annum for the whole squad per latest accounts.

However, if we sell them Paqueta at £50m and they include Nunes as £20m of that then the annual cost is £4m per annum - so a much lower portion of turnover for FFP/PSR but still £30m different/cash positive.
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D C wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 5:49 pm Mendes directed him towards Wolves iirc. As I said with Phillips last summer, i’d be surprised if Nunes agreed to leave so soon considering the amount of City players that do much better in season 2 under Pep
With one or two exceptions like that guy they signed from Leeds, I've forgotten his name.
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hammer1975 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:44 pm Be interesting if the advent of FFP/PSR actually sees more swap deals.

Paqueta and Nunes for example. If Man City pay £90m for Paqueta they have to spread that over 5 years - if they value Nunes at £60m in an exchange that’s £12m per year amortisation for us when we only have £65m per annum for the whole squad per latest accounts.

However, if we sell them Paqueta at £50m and they include Nunes as £20m of that then the annual cost is £4m per annum - so a much lower portion of turnover for FFP/PSR but still £30m different/cash positive.
Doubt you’d get that past the auditors, the taxman or the agents who want their % mate
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Whilst Nunes would be a good buy, if its coming out of the Paqueta money I really think the funds need to go towards LW and CF.
We have Alvarez, JWP and Soucek (maybe Downes/Potts) and yes could improve but we have no LW or CF currently. Additionally it's probably taking Soucek's goals out the team, he scores very few and without LW/CF I think we would struggle.

If its not related to Paqueta then £35m+ on a CM is the wrong place to spend imo.
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MB wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:55 pm Doubt you’d get that past the auditors, the taxman or the agents who want their % mate
You definitely can’t be daft with it - but who’s to say what a fair value for Paqueta is. Even on this thread in the space of a week I’ve seen £50m and £100m quoted as his value.
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hammer1975 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:44 pm Be interesting if the advent of FFP/PSR actually sees more swap deals.

Paqueta and Nunes for example. If Man City pay £90m for Paqueta they have to spread that over 5 years - if they value Nunes at £60m in an exchange that’s £12m per year amortisation for us when we only have £65m per annum for the whole squad per latest accounts.

However, if we sell them Paqueta at £50m and they include Nunes as £20m of that then the annual cost is £4m per annum - so a much lower portion of turnover for FFP/PSR but still £30m different/cash positive.
There's also the fact that if they valued Nunes as £20m, they'd be making a huge book loss on him which would surely negatively affect their PSR position.
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Roby wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 3:53 pm
Why did Rennes sell him after his big move there?
Their supporters were thrilled to get rid of him. They couldn't believe the club would get actual money for him. He was the laughing stock there. They considered him more or less inept at football, despite a decent goal record. The poor bloke seemed totally lost on the pitch, and he missed several sitters.

Obviously, his confidence was completely shot, and the possession based football Rennes tried to play wasn't suiting him.
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Watching Southampton/ WBA and again I am really impressed with Bednarek . 28 year old Polish international, with good distribution, a bit of pace, and solid defence qualities. Worth a punt from left field ??
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