♻️ The Summer Transfer Thread 2024

[Gsbgsb]

I believe the outgoings are now key not just from a squad space but also a wages perspective.

I suspect we will only take one “hit” on a free or paying up a contract and that will be Zouma so unless we find buyers Cornet and Ings are likely staying.

Irving might well end up on loan - he seems to be becoming a one person “Chelsea” loan project but that might also depend on if we find a central midfield alternative. I can see that being fairly late window if we have not as the decision is taken as to whether we need him as “emergency” cover.

I doubt we sign a striker this summer without shifting either Antonio or Ings but equally fairly relaxed about that - every summer there is the latest Omorodion, Duran etc as somebody has a “breakout” season. We likely lose both Antonio and Ings next summer so that is the time to address the issue as opposed to carrying 4 (with all the costs implications wage wise etc) this season.

I would be disappointed to see either JWP or Soucek leave without them pushing for the move. They offer the sort of engine needed for a modern PL midfield especially in a 3. I accept neither is first choice in a 4-2-3-1 but one has to be in a 4-3-3 given what we have at present. Yes we need another creative midfielder to support Paqueta but unless that player has a similar engine to JWP/Soucek I would be very worried about a lack of legs in midfield. If either does push for a move they will need replacing in addition to the likely reinforcement in that are already under consideration.

[Turns to Stone]

When Sir Oliver Scarles lifts the Europa League trophy in three years time, no-one will be worrying about missing out on Ferdi.

[jastons]

When Sir Oliver Scarles lifts the Europa League trophy in three years time, no-one will be worrying about missing out on Ferdi.

An important point. Fans want the youth to be given a chance. Fans want shiny new players.

[mr sandman]

Palace reject £60m bid for Guehi from Newcastle.

Bubbs, more and more, it shows just how good our planning, our signings and the prices we paid, for the quality we have bought in has been.

All involved have done a fantsatic job mate.

[DublinDave]

An important point. Fans want the youth to be given a chance. Fans want shiny new players.

Indeed.
Youth players usually get their chances in early stages of the cup or because of dire need due to injury l/lack of form for 1st choice.
With 2 senior pro's in every position their chances will be almost nil so loans the best thing for their development.
We definitely need to shift a few.

[funky chicken]

Ings and Cornet are the type of players you can realistically only see a club making an attempt to bring them in right at the last knockings when we’ve decided to lower our demands, the other club misses out on other targets or simply becomes desperate.

I wouldn’t be surprised though if there’s a loan for Irving lined up should we have a CM in mind, so we wouldn’t have too much bother there.

I still think Zouma will go regardless too. Even if we rip up his contract.

[Phil Parkes' Gloves]

I doubt we sign a striker this summer without shifting either Antonio or Ings but equally fairly relaxed about that - every summer there is the latest Omorodion, Duran etc as somebody has a “breakout” season. We likely lose both Antonio and Ings next summer so that is the time to address the issue as opposed to carrying 4 (with all the costs implications wage wise etc) this season.

I've just seen that Villa are planning to loan out Archer, which you'd assume makes Duran less likely. I'm becoming more accepting that maybe we won't do anything else, even if Ings goes, with Fullkrug, Antonio and Bowen being the CF options.

I would be disappointed to see either JWP or Soucek leave without them pushing for the move. They offer the sort of engine needed for a modern PL midfield especially in a 3. I accept neither is first choice in a 4-2-3-1 but one has to be in a 4-3-3 given what we have at present.

Agreed. I can see us starting against Villa with a three of Rodriguez, Soucek and Paqueta. The 'shadow' three when everyone is fit (and assuming Soler signs) is Alvarez, JWP and Soler.

[RockyMtnHammer]

It will be interesting if Zouma and the club end up agreeing to a buyout. I can't imagine he'd give us a massive discount because it is money we agreed to pay him. I think our best hope would be some UAE club agreeing to a portion of the salary to offset the cost to us. Not sure even that would happen.

[RockyMtnHammer]

re: JWP

I think he'll thrive in this new system and with Fullkrug up top. I think he has a place in this team.

Soucek and Irving I'm less certain about.

[sutts07]

soler challobah and duran in ,
outs zouma ings cornet and JWP !

Surely Irving will be the absolute first out of the door if we need to make space.
He is a pantomime cult hero who I doubt will even kick a ball for us in a competitive match.

Cornet I agree with, depending on the attitude he has shown on the training pitch under the new gaffer.

There is only one way we let JWP move on this summer and that is if someone wants to pay way over the odds for him.
Which just isn't happening.

Ings only really leaves if we need to free up wages.

[SullySpecial]

When Sir Oliver Scarles lifts the CHAMPIONS League trophy in three years time, no-one will be worrying about missing out on Ferdi.

Fixed.

[sutts07]

Surprised to not here more news of clubs interested in certain players.

Is there really no one in for Cornet or Ings??

We have been surprisingly (impressively) active early doors in this window. Most other clubs still have over a month to 'panic buy' players.
The likes of Ings and Cornet fit perfectly into that bracket.

I think we will move Irving on as soon as we get close to a deal with any of our remaining targets.
Zouma seems to be as good as gone if it is true that he has stayed out in the Middle East.

That is two non homegrown spots straightaway. Cornet would be next sensible option. Ings isn't the worst to have hanging around for another year assuming we can afford to pay his wages. Expensive cheerleader, but so be it.

[westlondonhammer]

When Sir Oliver Scarles lifts the Europa League trophy in three years time, no-one will be worrying about missing out on Ferdi.

Ferdi makes sense in the context of Emerson going

Emerson going rumours died down about 6 weeks ago (plus only ever came from ever-reliable Italian press) therefore Ferdi makes no sense

We can't buy them all.

[Ozza]

It will be interesting if Zouma and the club end up agreeing to a buyout. I can't imagine he'd give us a massive discount because it is money we agreed to pay him. I think our best hope would be some UAE club agreeing to a portion of the salary to offset the cost to us. Not sure even that would happen.

I reckon it will be a loan with us supplementing some of his salary to try and cover off the medical issue

[sutts07]

When Sir Oliver Scarles lifts the Europa League trophy in three years time, no-one will be worrying about missing out on Ferdi.

Scarles assist, Marshall goal for the winner.
Orford lifts the trophy.

[Sir_Trevor]

I did post this in the Julen thread but think it fits here too and I haven't seen it shared anywhere else but apologies if it has been.

Interview with J Lop in a Spanish paper.



The missing bit from the screenshot is:

"...management. No coach should hold the keys to the future of the club. The idea was to bring in players who could know the Premier League so that British culture is in the dressing room, and then to be able to mix different ways of understanding football.”

The sentence that I find really interesting is 'No coach should hold the keys to the future of the club'.

This seems to confirm the notion that he has the head coach role with TS dealing with all the recruitment, which I thought had been speculated about but wasn't entirely clear.

[Beavis Danzig]

The missing bit from the screenshot is:

"...management. No coach should hold the keys to the future of the club. The idea was to bring in players who could know the Premier League so that British culture is in the dressing room, and then to be able to mix different ways of understanding football.”

The sentence that I find really interesting is 'No coach should hold the keys to the future of the club'.

This seems to confirm the notion that he has the head coach role with TS dealing with all the recruitment, which I thought had been speculated about but wasn't entirely clear.

sort of quote that i'd have hoped jules understood, but not one i'd have expected him to be so candid with in the media and shows that he is comfortable with the situation. good signs all round.

[fjthegrey]

The sentence that I find really interesting is 'No coach should hold the keys to the future of the club'.

This seems to confirm the notion that he has the head coach role with TS dealing with all the recruitment, which I thought had been speculated about but wasn't entirely clear.

He said this in his very first interview as manager mate. It isn't much of a revelation.

He's a coach, he deals with the players. Other people (Steitden) is responsible for recruitment. They will have discussions but their roles are essentially separate. That was made quite clear by him from the outset.

[D C]

We do have 2 (or more) players per position though so it says a lot about what he thinks of some of our reserves. If that wasn’t obvious already

[Ozza]

We do have 2 (or more) players per position though so it says a lot about what he thinks of some of our reserves. If that wasn’t obvious already

Same as the last bloke by the look of it