"Too late to save the environment"

[SammyLeeWasOffside]

It's terrible but it's not necessarily connected to the current state of the environment. It's an area that has had catastrophic floods numerous times going back centuries.

[Igor_E7]

Never on that scale, level of water is unprecedented

[swisstony]

From Wikipedia:

Floods
The Eastern Neisse originates in the Králický Sněžník Mountains of the Sudetes, near the border with the Czech Republic. It is partially regulated. The river has often burst its banks and flooded nearby towns, at times destroying them completely. Town chronicles from Kłodzko mention floods in the following years:

14th century: 1310
15th century: 1441, 1464, 1474
16th century: 1500, 1522, 1524, 1560, 1566, 1570, 1587, 1589, 1591, 1598,
17th century: 1602, 1603, 1605, 1610, 1611, 1612, 1625, 1646, 1652, 1655, 1689, 1693, 1696
18th century: 1702, 1703, 1713, 1724, 1735, 1736, 1740, 1755, 1763, 1767, 1775, 1785, 1787, 1789, 1799
19th century: 1804, 1806, 1827, 1828, 1829, 1831, 1850, 1854, 1879, 1881, 1883, 1891, 1897
20th century: 1900, 1903, 1907, 1938, 1952, 1997, 1998
21st century: 2024

[Igor_E7]

The record rainfall seen in central Europe has been caused by a number of factors, including climate change.

Different weather elements came together to create a “perfect storm” in which very cold air from the Arctic met warm air from the Mediterranean.

A pattern of atmospheric pressure also meant that Storm Boris was stuck in one place for a long time.

Scientists say that a warmer atmosphere holds more moisture, leading to more intense rainfall. Warmer oceans also lead to more evaporation, feeding storm systems.

Source: BBC

[delbert]

It's the BBC mate, if they can't blame Israel then climate change is the next thing on their list.

Storm Boris

Has a certain ring to it.....

[bubbles1966]

Britain is the fastest-growing wine region in the world due to this shift in climates.

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2024/0 ... -vineyards

[sendô]

I'm sure I read somewhere before that French wine makers have been buying up land in Kent and Sussex for a while now as they're decent wine making areas now.

There's a decent vineyard in Essex along the River Crouch that does a lovely bottle of sparkling white.

[swisstony]

https://www.winbirri.com/the-history-of-english-wine/

The history of English wine owes a great debt to the Romans, who were among the first to introduce wine cultivation to England. During their occupation of Britain in the 1st century AD, the Romans recognized the potential of the local climate and soil for grape growing, and established vineyards throughout the region.

British wine isn't a new thing, but for one reason or another the British gravitated more towards ale.

[Junco Partner]

Lets hope they've developed the grape that grows underwater.

Heavy rain brings floods and warnings of travel disruption in England and Wales

Same in Germany, Hungary, Austria, Poland, Romania, Moldova, Czech Republic, Mexico...etc

Our climate is getting warmer and wetter due to fossil fuels.

[delbert]

What did the Romans blame?

[Junco Partner]

Blame for what?

[delbert]

Blame for what?

Our climate is getting warmer and wetter due to fossil fuels.

Their climate getting colder and dryer, in fact any climate change witnessed by pre industrial revolution people of old.......

[Junco Partner]

They enjoyed a stable and benign climate conducive to human life flourishing.

So did we up to about 30 years ago.

[Hummer_I_mean_Hammer]

They enjoyed a stable and benign climate conducive to human life flourishing.

So did we up to about 30 years ago.

I'm sure that there were more hosepipe bans when I was younger

[Tenbury]

That's because ,since privatisation,water provision has improved so much...

[sendô]

About 8,000 - 10,000 years ago, Britain was under ice and still connected to mainland Europe, and most of the sahara desert was luscious green grassland.

Today, China alone produces a third of the worlds carbon emissions. The UK is less than 1%.

[Junco Partner]

We better get used to dealing with this...



This isn't flooding, there's no river or lake anywhere nearby, it's just a giant puddle created when you get a months rainfall dumped in an hour on Bedford. here will be more, much more due to a warming world allowing 7-10% more water vapour to be held in the atmosphere.

[alf git]

We better get used to dealing with this...



This isn't flooding, there's no river or lake anywhere nearby, it's just a giant puddle created when you get a months rainfall dumped in an hour on Bedford. here will be more, much more due to a warming world allowing 7-10% more water vapour to be held in the atmosphere.

Drains are probably clogged up with all the rubbish people chuck out of their windows.

[mumbles87]

We better get used to dealing with this...



This isn't flooding, there's no river or lake anywhere nearby, it's just a giant puddle created when you get a months rainfall dumped in an hour on Bedford. here will be more, much more due to a warming world allowing 7-10% more water vapour to be held in the atmosphere.

That's the problem aswell with climate changing it's harder to build to cope with both situations

When it's really really hot and then when it dumps a month's worth of rain in a few hours

We have that problem with tracks, when it gets to about 25 degree the temp on track is near 40 degree and then points start to fail. However you can't build for warmer weather because In the harsher winters it would have the reverse effect

[Denbighammer]

We have that problem with tracks, when it gets to about 25 degree the temp on track is near 40 degree and then points start to fail. However you can't build for warmer weather because In the harsher winters it would have the reverse effect

So how do they cope in places like the American Midwest where the temperatures are often over 100F in the summer and we'll below freezing for weeks in the winter?

I'm not being arsey. I genuinely don't know