"Too late to save the environment"

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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:47 am Oh do FO. He works in construction, that's the polar opposite of environmental... :crylol:
That may be but the fact he uses public transport to get there keeps his personal footprint low does it not?

Mines low as all the milage is done via electric and my job is public transport

I offset that with golf. Which isn't the most environmentally past time when you look into the chemicals and work involved to keep a course. Altho the local wildlife do thrive .
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mumbles87 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:46 am It's amazing how the world kept turning when COVID hit and people worked from home
Lots of people didn't work from home though.

I've nothing against people being able to WFH more where it works btw. Far too many businesses are driving people back into offices where they don't need to because they're paying for the space, or else someone else has paid to build the space.

Logistically though, it doesn't really work for everyone.
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sendô wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:26 am Lots of people didn't work from home though.

I've nothing against people being able to WFH more where it works btw. Far too many businesses are driving people back into offices where they don't need to because they're paying for the space, or else someone else has paid to build the space.

Logistically though, it doesn't really work for everyone.
Your right, I worked throughout COVID , was offered to be shielded due to wife being pregnant but I didn't want to let my colleagues down.

Companies need to adapt rather than constantly try the same thing until it fails

Warehouses outside towns with hot desking stations , ample parking And ofc a sandwich bar to corner that market

As I said previously I was one of the few on lul who hoped the numbers never returned . Could have run a Saturday time table with 79 trains instead of the weekday 96 per hour

Less trains means less cancellations due to NO okay stock (trains being broken) and ONA (lack of drivers as we are short) and better service provided
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mumbles87 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:33 am Your right, I worked throughout COVID , was offered to be shielded due to wife being pregnant but I didn't want to let my colleagues down.

Companies need to adapt rather than constantly try the same thing until it fails

Warehouses outside towns with hot desking stations , ample parking And ofc a sandwich bar to corner that market

As I said previously I was one of the few on lul who hoped the numbers never returned . Could have run a Saturday time table with 79 trains instead of the weekday 96 per hour

Less trains means less cancellations due to NO okay stock (trains being broken) and ONA (lack of drivers as we are short) and better service provided
Appreciate this is your area but how so? Surely they'd be scaled for less trains so have the same amount of slack in the system as before, ie not enough if the odd shortage is causing cancellations.....
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delbert wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:10 pm Appreciate this is your area but how so? Surely they'd be scaled for less trains so have the same amount of slack in the system as before, ie not enough if the odd shortage is causing cancellations.....
We wouldn't ditch out fleet. So of the 98 trains (off top of my head) we have on my line if they can't provide 96 to run a full peak service or we do have 96 drivers that's a train cancelled

However if numbers hadn't come back we could have run a off peak service (79 trains) so less drivers needed to cover, less trains needed at once meaning they would have longer time to service and fix them rather than constant issues we get with air con, drivers seats, traction packages etc
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In my experience, albeit in a totally different field, when they downsize the fat left also gets trimmed accordingly. Whilst it makes sense to us to have something in reserve, the bean counters have the sway and see such things as wasteful........
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delbert wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:12 pm In my experience, albeit in a totally different field, when they downsize the fat left also gets trimmed accordingly. Whilst it makes sense to us to have something in reserve, the bean counters have the sway and see such things as wasteful........
Whilst I agree , I doubt they would cut the fleet as it's already there. Staff tho? We have vacancies which will just not be filled so yes that would trim the fat.

However it would be then a full compliment of staff which would provide a full service rather than having gaps to fill with spare drivers when we don't have enough to cover duties
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Trump famously pulled the US out of the Paris agreement, I haven't seen anything about Biden putting them back in during his stint at the Whitehouse, did he, or didn't he?

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Looking at the line up of leaders attending COP 29 (probably the least believable of the Fast & Furious spin offs) it's only our lot from the richer nations taking it seriously at this one. Let's face it, Starmer's mainly gone to stop Millidiot from spunking away several billion on Brazilian underground solar farms or some other fantasy scam.

On a side note, I seem to be suffering from vanishing post syndrome, I'm sure I posted something on this thread yesterday..... :chin:
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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:03 am Trump famously pulled the US out of the Paris agreement, I haven't seen anything about Biden putting them back in during his stint at the Whitehouse, did he, or didn't he?
They were out for 107 days. Biden signed an executive order on the first day of his presidency reversing Trump's withdrawal. I'm sure the One-Man Taliban will reverse it back again.
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Taliban?. .or Caliban.??? :wink:
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Tenbury wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:58 am Taliban?. .or Caliban.??? :wink:
Could be in for a tempestuous few years
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Starmer addressing COP 29:

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... ember-2024

Basically word salad intermixed with unadulterated fantasy and virtually net zero sense. The president of Azerbaijan had a more realistic take on things with " oil, gas and other natural resources are a "gift of God" and countries should not be blamed for having or selling them."

Given the amount of leaders that have chinned off this event I'm beginning to think Starmer et al have nailed their colours to the mast of a sinking ship........
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A rising ship surely
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in a year that broke records for heat, fires, violent storms, floods & extreme weather I'm glad our PM is showing some leadership on this :thup:
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Junco Partner wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:20 pm in a year that broke records for heat, fires, violent storms, floods & extreme weather I'm glad our PM is showing some leadership on this :thup:
Not leadership if no one follows.
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Junco Partner wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:20 pm in a year that broke records for heat, fires, violent storms, floods & extreme weather I'm glad our PM is showing some leadership on this :thup:
Percival showed leadership, look what happened to Singapore under his command, substitute the Japanese for climate change and Percival's defence for Starmers net zero policy and we could be seeing history repeating itself, albeit in a totally different way. :chin:
I'd rather Starmer's efforts were more concerned with countering the effects of extreme weather rather than embarking on an ego trip by trying single handedly to control the climate.
Just suppose the berk did meet his own targets and by some miracle hasn't bankrupted the country in doing so but the rest of the world has carried on normal jogging so our single handed efforts have made bugger all difference to things. If climate change (man made or otherwise) is causing the freakish weather then we're still going to be getting the same floods as before but with far less funding or resouces to do anything about it.........
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https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/ ... 6-20241112

What an absolute marvel, must be given the number of people who have so far died in creating it.

Just waiting to hear about the first person in Saudi ,who dies of cold exposure or an avalanche, once the ski slopes go live.
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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:53 am https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/ ... 6-20241112

What an absolute marvel, must be given the number of people who have so far died in creating it.

Just waiting to hear about the first person in Saudi ,who dies of cold exposure or an avalanche, once the ski slopes go live.
I know it's a massive project and I'm sure loads of workers have died but 21,000 in 8 years would be c.7 people dying every single day since they started.
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Denbighammer wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:52 am I know it's a massive project and I'm sure loads of workers have died but 21,000 in 8 years would be c.7 people dying every single day since they started.
The Saudi equivalent of the HSE denied the numbers, so can't be right given Saudi's historic concern for human rights. They wouldn't fudge the figures would they.
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