jabbaglob123 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:35 pm DDH knows more about Steidten from behind the scenes than we're all aware of
Perhaps his stance on Steidten is based off of the information he knows?
[/quote jabbaglob . It has been obvious since steitden was appointed. DH has a serious agenda against him . I called him out over a year ago about it . Yet he denied it . I despise GSB but readily admit it . He denies his problem .
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To sign a striker who became our youngest striker but who also turned 32 today… it was horrendous decision making even before you get to the bit about Füllkrug having persistent and known injury issues.Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:36 pm Ings - 4 in 51
Fullkrug 2 in 9
I still don’t think it was a terrible signing. He’s just been unlucky with injuries.
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Said when Steidten joined, that it was a coup, because him being a really good talent spotter, but also said, that he was not really liked at Leverkusen, because of his overall demeanor and that he had left the club under a cloud.The hayfield wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:45 pm It has been obvious since steitden was appointed. DH has a serious agenda against him . I called him out over a year ago about it . Yet he denied it . I despise GSB but readily admit it . He denies his problem .
No surprise, that he clashed with a lot of people, while being with us and because of some other stuff.
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All those swivelled eyes Moyes fans just sharpening their knives for Steidten…The hayfield wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:32 pm It's not a fall out. He's had it in for steitden from the off . Well dwarfs back in charge now . Enjoy it .
Or Steidten wasn’t very good at his job and people are saying that.
Agendas, eh?
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Not really sure what's going on here tonight , I was expecting to read some positive news about Niclas' return to fitness but I've entered into a world of weird bickering .
Come on , Boys , we all follow the same Club , we all want what's best for the Club and surely we all want to see Niclas Fullkrug back in the claret and blue scoring goals - he may be old , perhaps even a little slow but he brings us a wealth of experience and and so far has 2 goals 1 assist from 9 appearances .
His wages are decided by the Club and he didn't set out to get himself injured .
I like him and when fit he's our Centre Forward .
Come on , Boys , we all follow the same Club , we all want what's best for the Club and surely we all want to see Niclas Fullkrug back in the claret and blue scoring goals - he may be old , perhaps even a little slow but he brings us a wealth of experience and and so far has 2 goals 1 assist from 9 appearances .
His wages are decided by the Club and he didn't set out to get himself injured .
I like him and when fit he's our Centre Forward .
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Is this the first time you've opened a thread on this forum?The Old Man of Storr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:04 pm Not really sure what's going on here tonight , I was expecting to read some positive news about Niclas' return to fitness but I've entered into a world of weird bickering .
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I look forward to many years more of Fullkrug. Not a speed player, he'll be good even at 32-34.
If fit. Which is the big question isn't it.
If fit. Which is the big question isn't it.
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The moment he’s fit I’d wrap him up in cotton wool for the rest of the season and only give him 10 minutes or so off the bench in the last couple of games of the season.
Why? Because I want the club to sell him at the end of the season. And if we give him too many minutes there’s a chance he’ll break down again and then we’ll be lumbered with him a lot longer, as no club will come in for an injured player.
Giving him just 10 or so minutes in the last game or 2 will not only mean there’s less chance of his hamstring going “ping” again, but it’ll show potential interested clubs he’s fit enough to get (some) minutes, thus they’re more likely to make a move for him.
Nothing against the player’s ability as we’ve seen this season what a good player he can be. But with the wages he’s likely to be on, at his age and knowing his past injuries, let alone current injury, it’s simply a gamble not worth taking.
Shift him while we can. Just accept it’ll be at a loss. It was a silly signing when you consider the ages of the other 2 centre forwards on our books. Just move on from it.
Why? Because I want the club to sell him at the end of the season. And if we give him too many minutes there’s a chance he’ll break down again and then we’ll be lumbered with him a lot longer, as no club will come in for an injured player.
Giving him just 10 or so minutes in the last game or 2 will not only mean there’s less chance of his hamstring going “ping” again, but it’ll show potential interested clubs he’s fit enough to get (some) minutes, thus they’re more likely to make a move for him.
Nothing against the player’s ability as we’ve seen this season what a good player he can be. But with the wages he’s likely to be on, at his age and knowing his past injuries, let alone current injury, it’s simply a gamble not worth taking.
Shift him while we can. Just accept it’ll be at a loss. It was a silly signing when you consider the ages of the other 2 centre forwards on our books. Just move on from it.
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You do know that Steitden has gone too right?The hayfield wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:34 pm nope not from me . But I resent a young boy of 18 being written off as a flop . Merely because the poster has an agenda with steitden.
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With all due respect, I really don't understand this position.funky chicken wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:56 am Why? Because I want the club to sell him at the end of the season. And if we give him too many minutes there’s a chance he’ll break down again and then we’ll be lumbered with him a lot longer, as no club will come in for an injured player.
It feels like an accounting related decision more than a footballing one. Not only an accounting related one, but a really poor accounting decision because the real damage is already done.
Certain players are bought for pure footballing reasons rather than financial ones... especially when on the older side of the spectrum. I'd say Kilman, JWP and Fullkrug are 3 big ones over the last few years. They're bought for what they can bring to the team and any finances are essentially a write-off... therefore the money becomes irrelevant for me.
Selling any (especially JWP and Fullkrug) will represent big losses, therefore isn't it better just to keep them, play them and make the most of them rather than take big losses? I just don't see any money coming in being worth it and the players need to be seen for what they are.
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terrible signing and no long term planning. 32 years old and been injured most of the season;only going to get worse as he gets older.
he needs to get fit and we need to get rid asap for another big loss. 27m paid and realistically he will return to germany for around 10m.
ings ouut of contract so frees up his big wages
fullkrug - get rid in summer for 15m loss
antonio - no way should he get a new contract. he can use facilities to get fit but we should not be a charity. give him a role at the club but he is finished as a PL player. we need to move on.
ferguson - hopefully stays fit and does enough for us to sign him for 40m.
will still need another striker to cover for ferguson.
he needs to get fit and we need to get rid asap for another big loss. 27m paid and realistically he will return to germany for around 10m.
ings ouut of contract so frees up his big wages
fullkrug - get rid in summer for 15m loss
antonio - no way should he get a new contract. he can use facilities to get fit but we should not be a charity. give him a role at the club but he is finished as a PL player. we need to move on.
ferguson - hopefully stays fit and does enough for us to sign him for 40m.
will still need another striker to cover for ferguson.
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I for one am looking forward to the great man's return.
He's far a from a flop, from what we have seen on the pitch he has plenty to offer, the injuries aren't his fault.
#Justice4Fulle
He's far a from a flop, from what we have seen on the pitch he has plenty to offer, the injuries aren't his fault.
#Justice4Fulle
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he is no doubt a good player but too old and injury prone for us. we should have got him 3 years ago. cut our losses and get rid. we dont need another andy carroll !
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FFS give him a chancehammerman11 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:36 am he is no doubt a good player but too old and injury prone for us. we should have got him 3 years ago. cut our losses and get rid. we dont need another andy carroll !
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Indeed
People can complain about his signing... but it's a late now and therefore f*** all can be done about that.
Unless we want to make terrible financial decisions now, it's better to back him and look forward to what he brings to the team (which is a lot).
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He is definitely one of the better finishers we have had in the side for some time. Unlucky with injuries and probably not quite the right fit for where we are. Not a great signing for us but still a quality player. Can see us selling at a loss in the summer.
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Certain people would have gone mad, if Moyes had brought in Füllkrug on such a bonkers deal.
50m investment and no resale-value. A deal going completely against how you do business nowadays.
Gonna be interesting how much we gonna use him, once he's back and semi-available, as we certainly got the preference to build up Ferguson for a potential summer move to us, while showing other suitors, that Fülle can still contribute and is well worth a loan (maybe with option) in the summer.
I don't think he sees his future with us, after Steidten’s sacking.
50m investment and no resale-value. A deal going completely against how you do business nowadays.
Gonna be interesting how much we gonna use him, once he's back and semi-available, as we certainly got the preference to build up Ferguson for a potential summer move to us, while showing other suitors, that Fülle can still contribute and is well worth a loan (maybe with option) in the summer.
I don't think he sees his future with us, after Steidten’s sacking.
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DusseldorfHammer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:00 am Certain people would have gone mad, if Moyes had brought in Güllkrug on such a bonkers deal.
50m investment and no resale-value. A deal going completely against how you do business nowadays.
Gonna be interesting how much we gonna use him, once he's back and semi-available, as we certainly got the preference to build up Ferguson for a potential summer move to us, while showing other suitors, that Fülle can still contribute and is well worth a loan (maybe with option) in the summer.
I don't think he sees his future with us, after Steidten’s sacking.
35 million on vlasic?
25 million on Cornet?
35 million on Scamacca?
Come on Moyes made some terrible signings as well as good ones in his tenure and didn't get half the flak TS did for Fullkrug
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We still got a good chunk of our money back for Scamagone. Fee for Vlasic was less. Still a poor signing.jabbaglob123 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:45 am 35 million on vlasic?
25 million on Cornet?
35 million on Scamacca?
Come on Moyes made some terrible signings as well as good ones in his tenure and didn't get half the flak TS did for Fullkrug
Cornet, more or less unfortunate because of his injury, that changed the career of the then 25-year-old.