Summer 2025 Bosman thread

[Cuenca 'ammer]

ALL Bosman's come with a signing on fee. I would be surprised if they didn't also include another fee.

there's ALWAYS agents fees whether they come with a transfer fee or a Bosman.

take a look at how much money the PL spent on agents fees...

https://www.givemesport.com/how-much-ea ... this-year/

dated 2024

When dealing with new contracts or transfers, it has become commonplace for these representatives to demand a fee for themselves to allow the client to put pen to paper. In some cases, this can make up a hefty chunk of what a club pays for a deal.

so us paying an agent's fee for Guido would be no different if we paid money for him or a Bosman. he'll likely get more in a signing on fee for sure.. but all else is exactly the same as normal..

imvho that is.

were we to sign either Gomes or David, how much does anyone think we'd be paying in signing on fees ????????

10M plus ?????????

[steveyrockstar]

He was on a lot less than that at Betis, I think. And the other motivations sound tenuous at best to me.

I'd advise him to take the most money, even if that means seeing out his final year at our place and moving on another free at the end of it

'Playing regular football' tenuous at best? Surely that's a major factor for a lot of players - unless they're solely in the game for the dough.

[Ozza]

I’d guess that he’d rather sit on his arse for the ridiculous wages we’re giving him than take a massive pay cut

The only way we get him out of the door is by subsidising his salary

When you think about JL has cost us a fortune all being told

[MB]

'Playing regular football' tenuous at best? Surely that's a major factor for a lot of players - unless they're solely in the game for the dough.

Based on our track record, probably depends on how much his missus likes shopping in London!

[Crouchend_Hammer]

He was on a lot less than that at Betis, I think. And the other motivations sound tenuous at best to me.

I'd advise him to take the most money, even if that means seeing out his final year at our place and moving on another free at the end of it

tbf none of those reasons are tenuous

i have no idea what he was on in Mexico, Spain or now so don't know what the reduction in pay would be if he did have a team in spain who wanted to buy him. plus i don't know enough about tax situation, other financial vehicles that work in someones benefit here vs there.

however, not all footballers would refuse a move because they would need a drop in wages, especially when you factor in there would likely be a signing on fee for any move, an agents fee as well (which could be a motivation). a player might have lower living costs in another country. plenty of things could impact on the actual financial trade-off

it might be that moving back to Spain means a 50% drop in 'wealth' but he might be ok with that trade off to mean playing football regularlaly somehwere him and his family are happier

it wasn't a very good signing. all clubs have them. but it doesn't have to end up as a disastrous one

[Swiss Pauli]

it wasn't a very good signing. all clubs have them. but it doesn't have to end up as a disastrous one

Not sure I'd class it as a disaster, even if he does see out his contract with us. His reported 75k/week is 3.9m a season. If he's due signing on fees on top that might be another million. Maybe 9m over two years when our total wage bill would be ~310m.

That said, I do still think we'll get rid of him in the summer by sponsoring wages with any transfer fee we get. So maybe 4-5m down at worst. Which would be a third of the fee we reportedly paid for Ings.

[Southminster Hammer]

Barca chose not to sign him after they ditched Xavi and hired Flick

But still classed as good enough at that point to play for them, he's obviously highly rated in Spain, I can't judge him on his time here, he's hardly played a regular run of games.

[Swiss Pauli]

That's actually much higher than I expected for a club like Betis.

They're quite a big club in a football mad city.

Half of the league have wage bills under €50m, including Iraola's old side Rayo who paid just €33m in 22-23.

[Swiss Pauli]

But still classed as good enough at that point to play for them, he's obviously highly rated in Spain, I can't judge him on his time here, he's hardly played a regular run of games.

Would have been the club bringing in a player specifically for Xavi rather than the scouts at Barca rating him. Similar to how he came to our place!

[MB]

Any love for Tyrick Mitchell at LB/LWB? Very strong in the tackle, 4 assists this season. Passing numbers on FBRef terrible, but the same goes for Munoz on the other wing, so possibly a style thing rather than just ability. Could maybe play LCB at a pinch as well.

Just read Mitchell played non-league. Would give us four with Antonio, Bowen and Kilman!

[Sticky]

How we can just wipe our mouths of the Guido transfer is typical West Ham. It's as tho we treat it like Monopoly money. 'Ah f*** it, it's only £10m quid..'.

Meanwhile every month Danny Ings opens another payslip that reads: £500,000... and for a footballer he doesn't even get close to a football for the most part. Tell me the World's not gone insane.

The amount of millions we have lost in the transfer market over the last couple of years is beyond incompetent.

Still, as long as everyone gets paid eh? The wheels keep on turning.

[Misko]

They're quite a big club in a football mad city.

Half of the league have wage bills under €50m, including Iraola's old side Rayo who paid just €33m in 22-23.

According to this site, he was on 27.5k per week at Betis: https://www.capology.com/player/guido-rodriguez-34436/

I honestly don't know how reliable it is.

[westlondonhammer]

Trying to rationalize money in football to validate an argument around players being a success or flop is tricky.

Do we rate Todibo higher because he is still on his Nice 20k a week salary this season? 1/5 a week of Kilmans wage. Do we excuse Mavropanos' brain farts more because he is on half the money of Kilman?

Our wage structure is a bit of a mess... therefore it's tricky

Guido cost us nothing in transfer fees and is on an average wage. In the West Ham world his salary is behind JWP, Paqueta, Soucek, Soler... and that's where he is in the pecking order now. So we're getting what we're paying for really.

He'll probably leave in the summer.

No ill will from me. Good luck to him.

[Swiss Pauli]

According to this site, he was on 27.5k per week at Betis: https://www.capology.com/player/guido-rodriguez-34436/

I honestly don't know how reliable it is.

They're generally pretty decent, but can sometimes be quite far off: before his loan move they had Aguerd as being on £40/week which is about £10k below their latest update.

The big caveat with wages is for Serie A where wages are usually reported net of tax. I think Capology has now adjusted those wages to be before tax, but one or two might sneak through (or be reported elsewhere as gross wages when the Italian sources need to be understood as net wages).

[DusseldorfHammer]

Guido cost us nothing in transfer fees

25m to 30m investment in terms of wages plus signing on fee. With no re-sale value. Another bonkers deal from the Steidten and Lopetegui car crash.

[hammerman11]

plenty of bad signings last summer fullkrug rodriguiz soler to go with the many over the years at the sullivan circus ; haller anderson zaza etc

time to buy some more british based players.

ramsdale
walker-peters
harwood-bellis
bellingham
delap

at least with those 5 you know they can perform in england and all bar bellingham the PL.

[Sloop John B]

We need to build a competitive squad full of players all capable of being in the starting XI.

Is anyone making a case for Rodriguez and Irving in the first XI...im not seeing it and I think we all agree our starting midfield is not good enough.

No room for passengers, no room for perennial subs.

[funky chicken]

West Ham are still tracking Ezechiel Banzuzi ahead of a potential swoop in the summer transfer window.

He is expected to leave OH Leuven if an interested party offers a sufficient fee.
(via @standardsport)

Is this chap good enough to instantly walk into our starting 11 for those who have watched him play?

[NWhammer]

25m to 30m investment in terms of wages plus signing on fee. With no re-sale value. Another bonkers deal from the Steidten and Lopetegui car crash.

We paid him a 10-15m signing on fee?

[DusseldorfHammer]

We paid him a 10-15m signing on fee?

Yearly salary -> signing on fee. He's on 120k.