the pink palermo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:03 pm
Because their economies are almost all universally struggling, yet they continue on a point of stubbornness to conduct an economic and political blocade of the UK, seeing us in much the same way as the USA has viewed Cuba.
They are hurting themselves to score a point.
And now, the USA is going to hurt them some more.
They need to swallow their pride and seek stronger trading links with the UK, and by swallow their pride i mean accept their policy of the freedom of movement of people is wrong. They know its wrong, every member country in Western Europe knows its wrong, but they wont change because it means accepting we were right.
The EU are very good on transmit, they need to switch to receive.
Big chance for the EU to become the biggest trade market worldwide. A market you can trust.
Big chance also for the EU to find some inner balance again and make some reforms in order to be more flexible in terms of policies and governing.
the pink palermo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:03 pm
Because their economies are almost all universally struggling, yet they continue on a point of stubbornness to conduct an economic and political blocade of the UK, seeing us in much the same way as the USA has viewed Cuba.
They are hurting themselves to score a point.
And now, the USA is going to hurt them some more.
They need to swallow their pride and seek stronger trading links with the UK, and by swallow their pride i mean accept their policy of the freedom of movement of people is wrong. They know its wrong, every member country in Western Europe knows its wrong, but they wont change because it means accepting we were right.
The EU are very good on transmit, they need to switch to receive.
They can’t and they won’t.
It’s not just about free movement it’s the whole concept of centralising control in the hands of the Brussels elite. That’s why you never see an instance of a treaty actually handing back control to the member states.
Remember “ever closer union” is the bedrock of it all since foundation.
I’ve said it before but you don’t need a flag,an anthem,a currency, a government, a court,and a citizenship if you just want to trade and cooperate with your neighbours.
They simply won’t tolerate people who don’t buy into the grand plan. That’s why they don’t care if they hurt themselves punishing us
Big George wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:03 pm
Desperate stuff... is anything believing this approach any more?
Only the deluded/ gullible or beyond-possible-optimistic.
She's simply shouting at the moon. No-one is listening.
On Badenoch, I wonder if she will make it to Christmas - I'd be surprised if she was still leader this time next year. Her party is on a doom cycle into irrelevance and impotence and has been for more than ten years now - I may have mentioned / predicted this once or twice before Anyway, it couldn't happen to a nicer party.
DaveWHU1964 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:06 pm
Only the deluded/ gullible or beyond-possible-optimistic.
She's simply shouting at the moon. No-one is listening.
On Badenoch, I wonder if she will make it to Christmas - I'd be surprised if she was still leader this time next year. Her party is on a doom cycle into irrelevance and impotence and has been for more than ten years now - I may have mentioned / predicted this once or twice before Anyway, it couldn't happen to a nicer party.
Heard her being interviewed on Sunday by Trevor Philips, ive never really listened to her before, what struck me was how poor she was (not financially obviously), and how far the quality of the leadership in that party had fallen.
Ozza wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:15 pm
Heard her being interviewed on Sunday by Trevor Philips, ive never really listened to her before, what struck me was how poor she was (not financially obviously), and how far the quality of the leadership in that party had fallen.
Is she really the best they have?
First time I really listened to her was during the post office horizons inquiry. My initial thoughts was very poor but as it went on, I couldn't believe she has forged a career in politics let alone be the leader of one of the main parties.
Ozza wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:15 pm
Heard her being interviewed on Sunday by Trevor Philips, ive never really listened to her before, what struck me was how poor she was (not financially obviously), and how far the quality of the leadership in that party had fallen.
Is she really the best they have?
IMHO, she's what the French would call a "fuse". Expendable, disposable, sacrificial lamb they can bin off with no fallout if/when she screws up, while they try to get their house in order in the background. No sane person would have taken that job as you're on a hiding to nothing, and they wouldn't have given it to anyone with even the slightest potential to lead them back into power, as that day is a long way off and they would need someone fresh (new manager bounce )
Toulouse_Iron wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:22 pm
IMHO, she's what the French would call a "fuse". Expendable, disposable, sacrificial lamb they can bin off with no fallout if/when she screws up, while they try to get their house in order in the background. No sane person would have taken that job as you're on a hiding to nothing, and they wouldn't have given it to anyone with even the slightest potential to lead them back into power, as that day is a long way off and they would need someone fresh (new manager bounce )
I thought that was the point of Liz / Rishi (delete as appropriate)
Anyway, it couldn't happen to a nicer party. 
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