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SiO wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:20 pm Don't harry Potter, C and H, give the man some time
:zippy:
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TheHandOfDog wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:19 pm What is C&H and should I even care
I can help. The answer is: no
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TheHandOfDog wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:19 pm What is C&H and should I even care
Basically a board media mouthpiece
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Crazy that every manager we ever have tends to dither on transfer deals. That's some poor luck for Sullivan to have to contend with.
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Bubbles Fortuna wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:54 pm Crazy that every manager we ever have tends to dither on transfer deals. That's some poor luck for Sullivan to have to contend with.
and yet the biggest ditherer at the club is Davey S
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Aarrggh you've all made me go look at C&H... :crylol:

What an absolute trashbag of a site the way they try and plant seeds of negativity throughout every story - for a fan site is appalling. Just rage bait nonsense start to finish.
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Ozza wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:56 pm and yet the biggest ditherer at the club is Davey S
For evidence one need look no further than the Lopetegui slow motion sacking
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upton o'good wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:50 pm For evidence one need look no further than the Lopetegui slow motion sacking

I would say his reluctance to be trigger happy is one of his only good points
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goa127 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:36 pm I would say his reluctance to be trigger happy is one of his only good points
in the past, yes. Though I feel that may have been Gold's influence. This time it was pretty clear he was going to sack Julen for several games before he finally did.
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upton o'good wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:16 pm in the past, yes. Though I feel that may have been Gold's influence. This time it was pretty clear he was going to sack Julen for several games before he finally did.
Sullivan seems incapable of making good decisions, or perhaps is desperate to avoid any decision that shows him in a bad light. He wanted Moyes out but after Prague didn’t dare press the trigger, instead he did his usual trick of leaking criticism, withholding funds and generally making the situation untenable. He had numerous advisers tell him not to appoint Loppy, but of course the Salthouse factor clouded his judgement, and with that public he waited until nobody could doubt the Spaniard had to go. On both occasions pandering to Sullivans ego has cost the club in terms of performance and reputation, the money spent to compensate Loppy would have been better spent up front hiring Iraola or Silva but as usual we took the initially cheap, ultimately expensive, option. West Ham will go nowhere while Sullivan and his little band of sycophants are in charge, Potter is already starting to be subject to Claret & Hugh Sully speak, the story is so familiar now.
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Feel like this is a rare summer where we actually stand to receive some $$

- Soucek (Everton - 20m?)
- Aguerd (Sociedad/Atletico - 25m?)
- Paqueta (Man City - 45m?) if acquitted
- Kudus (Saudi- 65m?)
- Emerson (Wherever - 10m?)
- Mavropanos (Wherever - 15m?)
- Guido (Wherever - for whatever lol)

Let alone wage savings on Antonio, Coufal, Ings, Fabianski etc and potentially an Alvarez sale if we got a decent bid

A smart club could replace the departing players’ recent contributions for a similar amount of money if not less with smart deals on available talent + wonderkids

We are not a smart club, however
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1895Hammer wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:34 pm Sullivan seems incapable of making good decisions, or perhaps is desperate to avoid any decision that shows him in a bad light. He wanted Moyes out but after Prague didn’t dare press the trigger, instead he did his usual trick of leaking criticism, withholding funds and generally making the situation untenable. He had numerous advisers tell him not to appoint Loppy, but of course the Salthouse factor clouded his judgement, and with that public he waited until nobody could doubt the Spaniard had to go. On both occasions pandering to Sullivans ego has cost the club in terms of performance and reputation, the money spent to compensate Loppy would have been better spent up front hiring Iraola or Silva but as usual we took the initially cheap, ultimately expensive, option. West Ham will go nowhere while Sullivan and his little band of sycophants are in charge, Potter is already starting to be subject to Claret & Hugh Sully speak, the story is so familiar now.
For ‘numerous advisors’ read ‘spawn of Beelzebub’ otherwise known as his offspring.
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Hammer.CA wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:34 pm For ‘numerous advisors’ read ‘spawn of Beelzebub’ otherwise known as his offspring.
Yep, but I’d add the likes of Salthouse & Silkman, neither slow to spot an “earner”…..
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Bubbles Fortuna wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:03 am 2 goals in his last 20 games, purple patch has properly dried up.

#TeamSargent

I genuinely hope we sign him and he proves me wrong mate (Sargent that is).
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Takeiteasy wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:10 pm I genuinely hope we sign him and he proves me wrong mate (Sargent that is).
He'll either sign for us and flop or sign for someone else and be incredible.

It's the West Ham way.
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Wessex wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:10 pm Feel like this is a rare summer where we actually stand to receive some $$

- Soucek (Everton - 20m?)
- Aguerd (Sociedad/Atletico - 25m?)
- Paqueta (Man City - 45m?) if acquitted
- Kudus (Saudi - 65m?)
- Emerson (Wherever - 10m?)
- Mavropanos (Wherever - 15m?)
- Guido (Wherever - for whatever lol)

Let alone wage savings on Antonio, Coufal, Ings, Fabianski etc and potentially an Alvarez sale if we got a decent bid

A smart club could replace the departing players’ recent contributions for a similar amount of money if not less with smart deals on available talent + wonderkids

We are not a smart club, however
A smart ckub wouldn't shift 11 players either
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norse wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:16 pm A smart ckub wouldn't shift 11 players either
Under normal circumstances I would agree. Of the players mentioned, Aguerd ( and Cornet) aren’t with the team currently. And Guido, Ings and Antonio have not contributed at all since Potter came in. Coufal, Emerson, Cresswell, and Fabianski have had only minimal contributions. That is 7 of the 11 who really won’t be missed. The loaned players, Ferguson and Soler have also barely played. Even Soucek and Alvarez are being used less and less. The big departures will be Paqueta, Kudus and surprisingly Mavropanos, who in spite of not being that good would be missed. In a perfect world we would keep two of the three if not all 3, but I expect all 3 want to leave and are the bulk of any money in.
We already have a plug and play replacement for Guido in Potts who is at least as suited to the premier league. Scarles has already replace one of the left backs, and while not exactly like for like, Guilherme has replaced Ings as a forward off the bench. Hopefully it is David and Guilherme replacing Ings and Kudus.
Of the players Wessex mentioned 7 are over. 30, which is a reflection of poor long term planning. We would still have Areola, Foderingham, JWP and Fullkrug as players in their 30s.
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upton o'good wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:50 pm For evidence one need look no further than the Lopetegui slow motion sacking
Or historical evidence shows us Avram Grant.. it took Sully a whole season to sack him :asleep:
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norse wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:16 pm A smart ckub wouldn't shift 11 players either
A smart club wouldn’t need to!

But yes some caution needs to be had. High turnover does look unavoidable though.

The key is not to jettison those who positively impact the squad. I’d pay a year for Cresswell to cheerlead and do his badges with us for example.

Soucek is worth more on and off the pitch than we’d get in a fee.

I’m sure there are others.
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norse wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:16 pm A smart ckub wouldn't shift 11 players either
A smart ckub
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