Israel / Iran

[Puff Daddy]

It is not often an entire country is reduced to a pile of rubble, but now, how long will it take to clear that pile of rubble, before they can begin re-constructing the country, literally from the ground up? But for quite a,few years, I should imagine, the whole country is going to be one gigantic construction site

[SammyLeeWasOffside]

It is not often an entire country is reduced to a pile of rubble, but now, how long will it take to clear that pile of rubble, before they can begin re-constructing the country, literally from the ground up? But for quite a,few years, I should imagine, the whole country is going to be one gigantic construction site

It's ok Greta will be able to get in now, get her hands dirty helping people out.

[thamesideiron]

Phase 4..........Sit back and watch a Civil War escalate...if I can see it,sure Trump, well his advisors can,and Net and his
Cronies can.

Potentially an armed Civil War,Hamas will reliquish political control but remain as an armed force...there is,will be
armed opponents,there's extremist groups opposed to Hamas,more extreme that Hamas even, in Palestine.
They've hooked up at moment,as did 2 years ago for the Israeli attack.. but will seperate again.
Nets goal was to disarm/destroy Hamas,so whats gonna happen there when they refuse.

Civil unrest as people fight for Property,Utilities,any infrastructure that is left.

An Avenue for a "Peacekeeping" force,made of f**k knows to take control.

90% of Palestinians just want a peaceful life ....but they are controlled and dictated to by the Extremists.

[A False Five]

Is Palestine being officially recognised as a State as part of this peace deal?

[mcdaddy99]

Is Palestine being officially recognised as a State as part of this peace deal?

Almost everyone does…about 157 of the 193 UN member states formally recognise the State of Palestine.

If you mean by Israel and the USA? Absolutely not.

[vietnammer]

Phase 4..........Sit back and watch a Civil War escalate...if I can see it,sure Trump, well his advisors can,and Net and his
Cronies can.

Potentially an armed Civil War,Hamas will reliquish political control but remain as an armed force...there is,will be
armed opponents,there's extremist groups opposed to Hamas,more extreme that Hamas even, in Palestine.
They've hooked up at moment,as did 2 years ago for the Israeli attack.. but will seperate again.
Nets goal was to disarm/destroy Hamas,so whats gonna happen there when they refuse.

Civil unrest as people fight for Property,Utilities,any infrastructure that is left.

An Avenue for a "Peacekeeping" force,made of f**k knows to take control.

90% of Palestinians just want a peaceful life ....but they are controlled and dictated to by the Extremists.

Indeed. Any agreement is very fragile indeed. Hostages and prisoners released, IDF pulls out, a 'reassurance' that Hamas cannot be in power and if it gets that far all well and good. Then see what they've got. Listening to reports, that no detailed future plans are being proposed is probably a good thing cos there will be wrangling and objections. Even DT is keeping tight - lipped. Your point about extremists is the main worry I think. It's maybe not completely known exactly who the 'peacemakers' are dealing with and if there's ANY 'breakaway' hostility towards Israel the IDF will be straight back in.

[SammyLeeWasOffside]

At least 27 people have been killed in fierce clashes between Hamas security forces and armed members of the Dughmush family in Gaza City, in one of the most violent internal confrontations since the end of major Israeli operations in the enclave.

Masked gunmen from Hamas exchanged fire with militants near the Jordanian hospital in southern Gaza City.

Witnesses said that, according to a senior official in the Hamas-run Interior Ministry, security units surrounded an armed militia inside the city and engaged in heavy fighting to detain its members.

The ministry said eight members of the security forces were killed in what it described as “an armed assault by a militia”.

Local medical sources said that 19 members of the Dughmush clan were killed, along with eight Hamas fighters, since the fighting began Saturday.

Eyewitnesses said the clashes erupted in the Tel al-Hawa neighbourhood after a Hamas force of more than 300 fighters moved to storm a residential block where Dughmush gunmen were entrenched.

Residents described scenes of panic as dozens of families fled their homes under heavy gunfire, many of them displaced multiple times during the war.

"This time people weren’t fleeing Israeli attacks," one resident said. "They were running from their own people."

The Dughmush family, one of Gaza’s most prominent clans, has long had a tense relationship with Hamas, and its armed members have clashed with the group on several occasions in the past.

There is no way Hamas are going to give up control in this region. Day 1 and they are killing Palestinians in a power struggle.

[A False Five]

So Netanyahoo has reduced Gaza to a pile of rubble and now wants peace.

How cute.

[bubbles1966]

If this holds for any reasonable length of time I think a peace will happen in the Russia/Ukraine war fairly soon after.

Trump will carry on driving down the oil price to make it happen - it's already down 20% in a year.

[EvilC]

There is no way Hamas are going to give up control in this region. Day 1 and they are killing Palestinians in a power struggle.

This.

I believe part of the deal is that all the tunnels go. I don’t see Hamas allowing that, and they’ve only got rid of one third so far.

[sendô]

They probably can't remember where half of the tunnels are, there's so many of them.

I'd say just look for the schools and hospitals, but then every other building in Gaza was a school or a hospital.

Anyway, Israel are set to release 250 prisoners and 1700 detainees from Gaza, so that should swell the depleted Hamas ranks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2r2z0 ... 86ee7#post

[Puff Daddy]

This.

I believe part of the deal is that all the tunnels go. I don’t see Hamas allowing that, and they’ve only got rid of one third so far.

They'll automatically go, when what little of the country that is left standing is becomes one gigantic demolition site. How else are they to have gas, water, electricity cables and sewage pipes laid

[the pink palermo]

A truly great day, all 20 of the remaining living hostages have been returned, with 7 already back in Israel, the other 13 in IDF protective control.

The process of returning the remains of the other 28 murdered hostages bodies will take some time, but they've at least got the living ones home or on their way home.

Interesting to note Steve Witkoff's comments regarding Johnathon Powell's contribution to the negotiations.

[Junco Partner]

Not forgetting the Israeli regime approving 1,700 Palestinian hostages for release, lots still held without justification but hopefully the pressure on Netanyahu's regime to continue this process will be relentless.

[DDHammer]

I'll give it a month before the bombing starts. Hamas won't give up power, they'll just go dark for a little while and recruit the next generation of terrorists, or someone worse will take their place.

With no Israeli hostages being held (Which will also ease the pressure at home), the next spark could see Netanyahu obliterate the lot with Trumps backing.

Great the hostages are finally home, but I don't think this changes anything.

[chelmsfordhammer91]

Fair play all round for getting circa 2000 hostages released. The logistics of that must be insane.

Like others, I am not confident this 'peace' would last. But this is progress compared to weeks ago.

[The Old Man of Storr]

It's reported that 92% of all houses have been destroyed along with Schools and Hospitals .

Who will foot the bill for reconstruction - who will be involved ?



According to a joint assessment by the United Nations, the European Union and the World Bank, reconstruction over the next decade will require about $53 billion.


You can be sure that somebody somewhere will be making a few bob out of this , someone in the US no doubt .

[sendô]

Numerous property developers will make a hefty profit.

The people of Gaza will foot the bill, if not now through unaffordable costs of living.

Or else they'll just get priced out as other wealthy people move in.

[Ozza]

Fair play all round for getting circa 2000 hostages released. The logistics of that must be insane.

Like others, I am not confident this 'peace' would last. But this is progress compared to weeks ago.

The 1700 Palestinians were all banged up in Israeli detention centres, many without charge (women and kids in some cases), I doubt it was that difficult for the Israelis to organise

[Loftyhammer]

It's reported that 92% of all houses have been destroyed along with Schools and Hospitals .

Who will foot the bill for reconstruction - who will be involved ?



According to a joint assessment by the United Nations, the European Union and the World Bank, reconstruction over the next decade will require about $53 billion.


You can be sure that somebody somewhere will be making a few bob out of this , someone in the US no doubt .

Maybe someone who lives in a large white house in the US at the moment?