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Can you repeat the question?Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:48 pm I had both UK and Irish passports which expired. To renew the UK one needed the application and several supporting documents wintessed in triplicate by at least two members of the College of Heralds and an MP or an archbishop, on parchment or vellum only. Or so it seemed.
The Irish one needed a new photo and the money. guess which one I now have.
Easy as pie
Know of several family cases where say the husband has an Irish passport, wife UK one.Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:13 pm I'm quite interested in the passport thing. My Father-in-Law is Irish, and as such we're trying to get my wife and the kids sorted with Irish passports so they have the same rights to travel and work etc. I'm obviously a smelly lefty, so I'm not going to look at it objectively, but is it just understood that an Irish passport is better these days, or are there other benefits to a UK passport post-brexit that I'm not aware of?
Genuinly not stirring and looking for an answer as it's a question I've had with a couple of people now.
Plus its cheaper...Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:48 pm I had both UK and Irish passports which expired. To renew the UK one needed the application and several supporting documents wintessed in triplicate by at least two members of the College of Heralds and an MP or an archbishop, on parchment or vellum only. Or so it seemed.
The Irish one needed a new photo and the money. guess which one I now have.
I've been in that exact situation as my boss has a Spanish passport and she goes through much quicker than me these days. It's definitely helped me then get pushed through quicker.Essexmaniac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:05 am Know of several family cases where say the husband has an Irish passport, wife UK one.
The Irish passport holder has sailed straight through the EU gate and hung around waiting patiently for the spouse at the back of 200 passengers going through 'all other passports ' line.
Officials have questioned why the loitering. On explaining the officials have located the other half and ushered them through ahead of the rest. Moral is get an EU passport wherever possible and it can even benefit family members who cant get one,
Why would you not?Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:32 am I've been in that exact situation as my boss has a Spanish passport and she goes through much quicker than me these days. It's definitely helped me then get pushed through quicker.
I suppose I was wondering what the pros were from a passport pov, as so many people I know are getting EU passports if they have the capability.
I've been trying to get my Spanish one purely as a childish middle finger to those that wanted my British one to be less useful than it was 7 years ago.Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:32 am I suppose I was wondering what the pros were from a passport pov, as so many people I know are getting EU passports if they have the capability.
That's the exact question I'm asking. Given that we voted out, 'What are the benefits of a UK one?'.
I suppose in theory the UK one would give the reverse of the advantages the EU one gives passing through their immigration, fast tracking while EU citizens queue to get in. In reality we seem to be being quite rightly open to EU citizens and their passports. Plus we always honour Irish ones so the UK one at this point has no advantage in that regard.Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:58 pm That's the exact question I'm asking. Given that we voted out, 'What are the benefits of a UK one?'.
It's almost like we want them to visit us more than they want us to visit them.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:14 pm I suppose in theory the UK one would give the reverse of the advantages the EU one gives passing through their immigration, fast tracking while EU citizens queue to get in. In reality we seem to be being quite rightly open to EU citizens and their passports. Plus we always honour Irish ones so the UK one at this point has no advantage in that regard.
That's a good thing right?Monkeybubbles wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:20 pm It's almost like we want them to visit us more than they want us to visit them.
I think I foolishly assumed that at some point in the future, our government would come up with a system whereby most EU airports have an 'EU and UK passports' queue. So that in some really small way it's seen as less of a failure, but I suppose why would EU contries want to offer us that?SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:14 pm
I suppose in theory the UK one would give the reverse of the advantages the EU one gives passing through their immigration, fast tracking while EU citizens queue to get in. In reality we seem to be being quite rightly open to EU citizens and their passports. Plus we always honour Irish ones so the UK one at this point has no advantage in that regard.
Or simply a function of relative sizes, with us having a fraction of the population of the EU.
Surely it can't be down to our government to implement that. Also, Spain has done that, albeit at selected airports:Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:29 am I think I foolishly assumed that at some point in the future, our government would come up with a system whereby most EU airports have an 'EU and UK passports' queue. So that in some really small way it's seen as less of a failure, but I suppose why would EU contries want to offer us that?
I think I was always quite proud of the strength of a UK passport and the options it provided British people, and it's a little sad that we have sacrificed that I think. My question was really just to examine if there were some pro's to that part of things.
Or we are being more open and welcoming to our European friends.
Probably.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:52 am Or we are being more open and welcoming to our European friends.
It's really not our place to do that. I think if it's offered we would do it, reciprocal for how we handle EU passports. At the end of the day that's the EUs call.Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:29 am I think I foolishly assumed that at some point in the future, our government would come up with a system whereby most EU airports have an 'EU and UK passports' queue. So that in some really small way it's seen as less of a failure, but I suppose why would EU contries want to offer us that?
I think I was always quite proud of the strength of a UK passport and the options it provided British people, and it's a little sad that we have sacrificed that I think. My question was really just to examine if there were some pro's to that part of things.
