Turns to Stone wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:34 am
The A-team should be the best people for the job based on their ability, not based on whether they were one of the small amount of MP's willing to put their hands up and say that they felt that Brexit was a good idea.
I get that in general. Just wondering (as we know all the candidates) who that A team ought to have been. Cameron tried his hand before the referendum and got nowhere and Mays deal was resoundingly rejected by leave and remain MPs. So who should have done it - a cross party group maybe but that relies on an acceptance that we were leaving.
The problem (as you allude to in your other post) is it was all a bit half arsed - until Johnson when it added half interested as well.
Probably the biggest political event in recent history, and the politicians hadn't a clue what to do with it except to decide they weren't compromising.
There was a window right after May (a remain supporter in 2016) took over, with a workable majority, a sizeable remain-y/soft-leave bloc in her own party, a larger and easily persuadable similar bloc in Labour and similar easy pickings in other parties. She only needed the courage or wisdom to face down the ERG/UKIP wing of her party and turn towards the middle to get a workable new arrangement with the EU.
She didn’t, she put party unity above the country’s, tried to please the unappeasable, and opted to try and bypass Parliament altogether to save the effort of consensus building. A very Tory trait.
Then came her long walk in Wales and the disastrous election….it will take a generation to recover from what’s followed.
That’s damming of our adversarial political culture which can’t and isn’t designed to promote consensus, but when big questions like this come along the system fails our country terribly.
There is "no going back" from the UK's exit from the EU, Labour's leader has said, ahead of a speech aimed at attacking the government's record on Brexit.
Sir Keir Starmer told the BBC a Labour government would not rejoin the EU and instead seek to "make Brexit work".
He said the economy was stagnant under the Tory government its Brexit deal was "holding us back".
He said he would set out Labour's Brexit plan in a speech later.
In the speech, Sir Keir will recommit to keeping the UK out of the EU's single market, customs union and free movement rules.
Speaking to the BBC's political editor Chris Mason before the speech, Sir Keir said: "We want to go forward, not backwards. And therefore this is not about rejoining the EU.
"It's very clear that what we can't do is reopen all those arguments, all those divisions that caused so much anguish over past years."
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There's the Lib Dems USP at the next election. "Wanna rejoin? Vote Lib Dem"
Last week some people at work were chatting & moaning about the Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade & possibly gay marriage & interracial marriage plus all the mass shootings lately.
Then one bloke says "I'd rather be here than in the UK because of Brexit".
How bad does he think Brexit is that it's worse than mass shootings & stripping basic human rights :lol:
Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:04 pm
According to the BBC news channel ticker, the EU are to take legal action against the UK for failing to apply the NI protocol.
Their complaint includes failure to control the movement of goods from Northern Ireland to GB mainland.....how is that to protect the Single Market?
However idiotic the Brexit idea was, and however unbelievably badly it was delivered by those who dreamed/moaned about it for 40+ years but never bothered with having an actual plan, there is no case at for the EU to be treating the people of NI in this way. It's nothing to do with protecting the SM, or even the GFA, its pure vindictive spite.
The Protocol needs to be ripped up and rewritten from scratch, it's a totally unworkable, unsustainable 'solution'.
