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Leon will lose, as will Rockhold. I don’t expect Aldo to win either, but he’s got more chance than those two.
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For the record, very few people are interested in this card. Leon has no chance against Usman, and Rockhold’s chin disintegrated 3 hard knockouts ago.
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Jose Aldo vs. Merab Dvalishvili

should be fairly interesting no ?

interesting to see the crowd and how many beers are in the crowd...

it being a Mormon state and all that...
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Cuenca 'ammer wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:25 pm Jose Aldo vs. Merab Dvalishvili

should be fairly interesting no ?

interesting to see the crowd and how many beers are in the crowd...

it being a Mormon state and all that...
That's the toughest to call of the top 3 fights (IMO). Aldo is still a stone cold killer in the cage, but he's got a LOT of miles on the clock, and hasn't hit the heights he was hitting prior to the Conor fight.

And therein lies the rub with MMA fighters - as they gain experience, they also gain damage. At some point in a career they hit their capability peak, and it's incredibly difficult to maintain that level, especially when younger, hungrier and "lower mileage" fighters are gunning for you. No matter what your style might be, even ultra-defensive fighters who specialise in neutralising opponents and avoiding damage, you'll take plenty of knocks in bouts and training, and it has a cumulative affect on your durability.

That's where my predictions are always grounded now, when I analyse matchups - who's more shopworn, who's trying to climb the ladder vs who's trying to stay at or near the top, who has the fresher chin etc. I guess with prizefighting, you can never be completely accurate with your predictions, but as a general rule, that seems to be a reasonable marker. Which also makes careers like GSP, Anderson etc so special - their ability to remain at the top for so long.

In the entire roster, the fight I'm most looking forward to is Izzy vs Alex. That has all the hallmarks of an absolute banger. That's unless Khabib comes out of retirement, of course, and if he does, his next fight *should* be the biggest in MMA history (IMO, again).
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Been out of the loop for a while, but I like the look of this Chase Hooper kid.
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Bloody hell!
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No one mentioning Leon's absolute peach of a KO on Usman? Without question, that was one of the greatest moments in MMA history - dethroned the P4P king, who'd decisioned him several years ago, increases his unbeaten run in the org to 11, was almost certainly down on points going into R5, and executes the most perfect left feint/left head kick the sport has seen.

Fair play, Leon - only the second UK titleholder in history, and did it in the most stunning fashion against a guy who was at the peak of his considerable powers.
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Seen the result, but have yet to see the fight.

Superb achievement, he carries himself really well.
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dasnutnock3 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:24 am No one mentioning Leon's absolute peach of a KO on Usman? Without question, that was one of the greatest moments in MMA history - dethroned the P4P king, who'd decisioned him several years ago, increases his unbeaten run in the org to 11, was almost certainly down on points going into R5, and executes the most perfect left feint/left head kick the sport has seen.

Fair play, Leon - only the second UK titleholder in history, and did it in the most stunning fashion against a guy who was at the peak of his considerable powers.
Has to be one of the best comebacks in the UFC with i think a minute to go, nice to be see usman knocked out like that, and did you notice Edwards didn't fill him in when he was knocked out like a lot of them do
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taust68 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:24 pm Has to be one of the best comebacks in the UFC with i think a minute to go, nice to be see usman knocked out like that, and did you notice Edwards didn't fill him in when he was knocked out like a lot of them do
Yes, the follow-up punches on clearly KO'd opponents are still commonplace, and referees need to be a lot quicker to stop fights once they happen.
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dasnutnock3 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:01 pm Yes, the follow-up punches on clearly KO'd opponents are still commonplace, and referees need to be a lot quicker to stop fights once they happen.
Dan Henderson v Michael bisping is absolutely sickening, bisping is clearly knocked out but Henderson still follows up with another massive punch
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Yeah that was ****ing cheap shot that one.
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taust68 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:55 pm Dan Henderson v Michael bisping is absolutely sickening, bisping is clearly knocked out but Henderson still follows up with another massive punch
That's the Dan Henderson who was jacked to the gills on TRT. In all of the UFC's storied history, allowing fighters to get a medical exemption to use Testosterone was one of the darkest, shadiest periods. The likes of Belfort, Rampage, Couture, Hendo and the rest of them were clearly taking the proverbial - claiming they'd die without them, then when USADA banned it, they continued to compete (having lost half their muscle mass).

I'm surprised Bisping never thought to sue Zuffa for allowing it to happen. Poor sod lost an eye when TRTitor headkicked him into the shadow realm. I'd imagine he's keen to hang onto his fairly cushy and, presumably, fairly lucrative UFC gig for the time being, but surely at some point he'll give it some thought.
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https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/8/24/2 ... vs-usman-3


Morning Report: Dana White already ‘looking at every venue in England’ for Leon Edwards vs. Kamaru Usman 3

“This thing is going to be so huge, not just for the U.K. but for Europe,” White told media after Contender Series. “We would hold it prime time in the U.K. We’re looking at every option out there right now. We’re looking at all the venues in England. Not just London, we’re looking at every venue in England. We’re looking at everything. There’s a lot of curfews and things you gotta deal with in England but we literally worked on that today.

“We put a fight night on at the O2 [Arena] and it sells out in minutes. Imagine what we can do with this thing. It’s gonna be massive over there. We weren’t planning on going to England again. Just like last time I left England.”


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It'll be the O2 again, no matter what he's suggesting. Leon still isn't that big of a needle-mover - a great technical fighter, sorely underestimated by the casuals - but his star power just isn't there, not compared with Bisping & Conor. Even Hardy had a bigger profile when he challenged GSP, albeit at an earlier point in the sport's development. O2 is a great venue for MMA.

I suspect Usman will need another fight before he gets the third rematch, unclear who that'll be, but it won't be someone who can potentially beat him. Masvidal's an outside bet (a very outside bet TBH), he's angling for a "rematch" of the hilarious post-fight brawl he started in London a few years back, when he socked Leon with the "three piece, and soda", but since he's on a 3-fight loss skid, no way does he talk himself back into a title shot without a decent win first.

Of the contenders:
Usman - L the title, probably doesn't walk straight into a rematch
Masvidal - 3 fight loss, needs a substantial win first and I think he's due to fight Burns
Covington - still injured from Masvidal sucker punching him in a restaurant, apparently, so not fighting soon
Khamzat - on a tear, and definitely angling for a title shot
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due to everything else going on, only caught the Whittaker fight and he's excellent.

now the main fight, Gane just knocked the crap out of Tuivasa.

he's strong but has no cardio I think.

close fight up until then, Gane was on the deck earlier but no way this was going 5 rounds.

whacked him with some belly kicks, then nearly took Tuivasa's head off

Ngannou/Gane will be a brawl...

got to happen don't see anything else.

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Seen some of the highlights of Whittaker vs Vettori. Very impressive control and fight IQ from "Bobby Knuckles", Vettori's concrete head wasn't enough this time.
Cuenca 'ammer wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:22 pmNgannou/Gane will be a brawl...
I'm certainly not betting it goes the distance again.
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dasnutnock3 wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:17 pm Seen some of the highlights of Whittaker vs Vettori. Very impressive control and fight IQ from "Bobby Knuckles", Vettori's concrete head wasn't enough this time.



I'm certainly not betting it goes the distance again.
Gane looked a lot sharper this time, although he did get caught. forgot that Ngannou has ACL and will be out for a long time.

I mean honestly there really doesn't seem to be anywhere else for Gane to go. yes, Whittaker looked really sharp.

although of course you can have the fight completely wrapped up until you get kicked in the head.

thoughts on this weekend ?


Main Card

Khamzat Chimaev vs. Nate Diaz
Tony Ferguson vs. Li Jingliang
Kevin Holland vs. Danial Rodriguez
Irene Aldana vs. Macy Chiasson
Johnny Walker vs. Ion Cutelaba

can't honestly see Diaz as anything other than a loss.
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Cuenca 'ammer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:44 pm Gane looked a lot sharper this time, although he did get caught. forgot that Ngannou has ACL and will be out for a long time.

I mean honestly there really doesn't seem to be anywhere else for Gane to go. yes, Whittaker looked really sharp.

although of course you can have the fight completely wrapped up until you get kicked in the head.

thoughts on this weekend ?


Main Card

Khamzat Chimaev vs. Nate Diaz
Tony Ferguson vs. Li Jingliang
Kevin Holland vs. Danial Rodriguez
Irene Aldana vs. Macy Chiasson
Johnny Walker vs. Ion Cutelaba

can't honestly see Diaz as anything other than a loss.
TBH, I don't know enough about most of these fighters, but I'd say that Walker and Diaz would be my picks to lose their fights. I'd also back Holland to win at 170, having held his own as an undersized 185er.

Just checked the odds on Chimaev & Diaz:

Chimaev 1/12
Diaz 11/2

Close, then :)
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think Diaz wants to go out in a blaze of glory one way or another...

checked up on the Walker/Cutebala records and they both have been a bit up and down.

Ferguson has also been on a bit of a downward slide but he's had some bloody good opponents that's for sure.

things is and I'm not very knowledgeable on loads of fighters, and there ARE loads of fighters with fights going on pretty much every week, but one minute you're really on the up and the next you're on the way down.

a cliche of course, but it does seem "on any given Saturday...."

that Edwards fight and the Nunes fights both floored me completely.

Namajunas looked great in both those fights against Zhang, the first one especially but didn't offer anything in her loss to Esparza.

and then I see your mate Pimblett weighed 50 pounds over his fight weight on some tv show !!!!!!!!!!!!

to be honest, the UFC is a bit of a victim of it's own success imvho. they now feel the need to show a fight pretty much every week. there is the interest. loads of US venues really want to put on fights.

of all places, I NEVER would have seen Utah as hosting a fight card, but sure enough they did. Mormon state, in general although it has relaxed beer sales in recent times but their general consensus on things I just couldn't see it happening. just goes to show how much interest there is in MMA in general. and they really do a fantastic job in promoting themselves.

haven't listened to his podcasts but Joe Rogan has HUGE numbers of listeners and as the "face" of the UFC it can't really do any harm. not sure if he even mentions his affiliation but I'm guessing a load of listeners came over due to his tie-in with the UFC.
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