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Watched the highlights - Volk is a BAD dude.
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Honestly, that was a masterclass in elite MMA. Maybe the highest level I’ve seen in nearly 30 years of watching.
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I saw a stat that Volk landed 70 significant strikes on Makachev, he'd only ever had 13 strikes landed on him in total in all of his previous fights combined.. :shocker:

Apologies if not quite correct, I can't find the tweet anywhere now.
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A few rumours/accusations that Islam used an IV drip to rehydrate after the weight cut, a move (I believe) banned by the UFC or USADA. If true, that's big, and very bad, news.
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I don't know too much about the technical stuff that you guys do, but I have see Yair Rodriguez fight before and thought he was (imvho) a pretty good fighter. Josh Emmett, (again imvho) isn't an awful fighter but looks as though he has limitations even to my uneducated eyes, but the way he got demolished...

:shocker:

and ditto for the way Maddalena beat Randy Brown and I know pretty much zero about both of them, was pretty intimidating to say the least.

as for your note Dan about P4P..

https://www.mmafighting.com/

MMA Pound-for-Pound Rankings, February 2023: Islam Makhachev knocks off Alexander Volkanovski to take No. 1 spot

and I pretty much have to go with your previous statement as to how the heavier fighter can be ranked above the lower weight fighter I don't know.

they do caveat it though

UFC 284 takeaways: Islam Makhachev vs. Alexander Volkanovski reignites the war over meaning of pound-for-pound


If you saw UFC 284’s main event and came away anything less than amazed by the talents of the featherweight king, I question whether you know what you’re watching. Before UFC 284, Charles Oliveira landed more significant strikes on Islam Makhachev than anyone else had in the UFC. His tally? Nineteen.

Volkanovski blew that number out of the water. He not only topped Makhachev in significant strikes (70 vs. 54), he also obliterated Makhachev in total strikes (164 vs. 95)
and showed off better defensive chops against that Dagestani wrestling than anyone before.


gotta be a rematch Shirley...???
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Paddy the Paddy Pimblett was in my local watching the Scouse derby & having fish & chips today.

Here he is with the manager Jackie (who's a Manc). He's on the left.

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Shabu wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:46 am He's on the left.
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dasnutnock3 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:56 pm Watched the highlights - Volk is a BAD dude.
Attempting trip takedowns against a Dagestani, ridiculous.

It’s a shame there had to be a “loser” in this fight as both men put on a show.

Volk edged it for me but there’s an argument for either fighter.

Let’s hope they dance again in a few months.
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Volk retains his P4P status, which has annoyed Islam’s fans, but I think it was the right call. Volk’s stock went up after the fight - Islam’s didn’t.
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It’s Jim Miller’s 41st fight in the UFC tomorrow. Wouldn’t be surprised if that record stands for a very long time.
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dasnutnock3 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:00 pm It’s Jim Miller’s 41st fight in the UFC tomorrow. Wouldn’t be surprised if that record stands for a very long time.
having watched longer than me Dan, it just seems that with the exposure of MMA fighting that more and more younger fighters are now in the sport (well in terms of MMA) and that it's just very hard to stay in the game.

fighters who were once "unbeatable" get beaten and more regularly when for a while some fighters were at the top for longer.

and these guys (again I don't have a huge base to compare it to) they're in better condition are better looked after and as most know their career isn't going to last an awful long time, take better of themselves outside the ring than perhaps they once did ?

I mean who honestly saw (outside those who watch this sport very closely) saw the Russian/Dagestanie fighters coming through ? and the advent of Australian fighters ? once it seemed that the Brasilian fighters were top of every weight bracket.

I think I read an article a week or so back, whereby the Brasilians are looking to invest more time and effort finding new fighters due to a "lack" of dominance they once held.

just a thought or several...

:crylol:

as an addendum.....who would have thought that a sport that was on the verge of literally going bankrupt is worth

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-ho ... ated-value

The UFC had a monster 2020 and the net worth of the company increased drastically.

According to UFC president, Dana White, who spoke to TSN's Aaron Bronsteter, the promotion is now worth 9-10 billion dollars.
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that's a very interesting presentation..

I guess that no matter how much judo, ju-jitsu you know etc. you can't do much with it if you're on the ground with some bloke preventing you from getting up...
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Basically, there’s lots of countries with an established culture of training in striking & submissions. Not many specialise in wrestling as well, which gives them a huge advantage in that particularly key area of mixed rules fighting. It also seems harder to turn a striker into a wrestler than a wrestler into a striker.
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https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/2/20/2 ... 8-on-may-6

Aljamain Sterling vs. Henry Cejudo now targeted for UFC 288 on May 6

The fight card order for UFC 288 has not been confirmed, and a city and venue for the ESPN+ pay-per-view has yet to be announced. A lightweight bout between ex-champ Charles Oliveira and Beneil Dariush is also expected to take place on the fight card.
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quick bump

UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane

March 4, 2023 T-Mobile Arena Las Vegas

Jon Jones vs. Ciryl Gane Title Fight
Valentina Shevchenko vs. Alexa Grasso Title Fight

Geoff Neal vs. Shavkat Rakhmonov
Jalin Turner vs. Mateusz Gamrot
Bo Nickal vs. Jamie Pickett

not sure Gane is good enough for Jones, despite him being out for so long, think Jones should have too much
Shevchenko needs to up her game from the last time she fought imvho
don't really see too much else on what at least to me, on paper, looks a pretty uninspiring card..
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Jones is such an asshat. Really shat on his career with all the PEDs and lifestyle twattery. And the eyepokes. Hope Gane beats him.

Shevchenko’s been coasting, from what I’ve read. Motivating serial champions can be hard work, be interesting to see how she gets on.

Bo Nickal’s an interesting one. On the main card for his fourth pro MMA fight. No questioning his grappling credentials, that’s for sure.
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Delighted to read the fraud that is Darren Till has been removed from the UFC roster..

Ha!
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S-H wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:03 pm Delighted to read the fraud that is Darren Till has been removed from the UFC roster..

Ha!
His career seemed oddly similar to Dan Hardy's - got a title shot after a short run of wins against average opposition (Cerrone was a puffed up lightweight & decisioning Wonderboy really wasn't enough to justify a shot), was uncompetitive against the titleholder, then slid down the rankings with only one more win before leaving the org. Although Dan wasn't cut, I suppose, but if he hadn't had medical problems, he probably would have been.

Never liked Till - seemed a limited athlete, too small for MW, too big for WW, and a bit of a size bully when he was winning fights. Nothing about his skillset was particularly impressive either, he seemed average in most areas. Expect he's got enough profile for a run in Bellator, but his career with the UFC was a C+ at best.
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